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[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] Let’s go to the phones and see who we’ve got calling in. Hello, Caller.

You’re live on Subpenny Radio. Who am I speaking to?

[Mr. Harris] (0:29 – 0:32)

You’re speaking to Rufus Paul Harris and Ben Stanley.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (0:33 – 0:35)

Hello, Rufus Paul Harris and Ben Stanley.

[Mr. Stanley] (0:35 – 0:36)

Correct.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (0:36 – 0:39)

Good to have both of you on the show.

How are you doing tonight?

[Mr. Harris] (0:39 – 0:41)

Doing fantastic. How are you?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (0:41 – 0:53)

Good, good. I’ve heard your voice a couple of times, once in Pal Talk and a couple other times on another radio program. So what can I do for you guys tonight?

[Mr. Harris] (0:54 – 1:00)

Well, we’re just calling in. We received about 10 or 15 messages to give you a call.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:01 – 1:01)

Is that right?

[Mr. Harris] (1:01 – 1:04)

And we’re talking about it on the radio.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:04 – 1:46)

Okay. Yeah, we’ve actually been talking about your stock and your company for, I guess, maybe about three and a half weeks, maybe almost. Yeah, I’d say probably about three and a half weeks.

And one of the questions that has come in from a shareholder is, can you give us an update with regards to the restricted shares that Front Haul owners owned? I guess there was some confusion as to whether or not people would be able to sell those restricted shares and they would need to get your approval on a case-by-case scenario. Is that something that you can share a little more detail with the listeners?

[Mr. Harris] (1:47 – 1:54)

Yeah, there was an administrative hold on during that merger. Now that we’re past the merger, the hold is off.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:55 – 2:03)

Okay. So does that imply that anyone that has restricted shares that are…

[Mr. Harris] (2:03 – 2:10)

Applies to anyone that is holding Front Haul shares that were restricted prior to the merger.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:10 – 2:10)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (2:11 – 2:15)

The administrative hold is released off of those shares and the Wattle shares also.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:15 – 2:21)

Okay. So the Wattle shares and Front Haul shares no longer are restricted.

[Mr. Harris] (2:22 – 2:48)

The ones that… The Front Haul that have a key time frame. In other words, if they had a year or two years, if they’re past that yet, they no longer have a company.

We are not holding their shares anymore. We have released them. All they have to do is have their broker contact us or contact our attorney to achieve an opinion letter so their shares can be released.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:48 – 3:18)

Okay. All right. Very good.

Very good. Let me see who else is sending in some questions. It says, what does Rufus think about the recent price per share movement?

So what are your thoughts in terms of the stock, I guess, moving up to $4, then pulling back on Thursday, closing red on Friday, and then today gapping up, but then still after hitting $3.25 closing below $3 today?

[Mr. Harris] (3:18 – 3:45)

Right. I’m not surprised at anything I see out of some of these traders out here and what they do to the stock. I’m really not. Everyone knows what it’s fixing to do.

It’s public. It’s in all of our filings. So it’s just a battle.

I don’t know if you know how to read. If you know how to read level two in the system, you can see a broker battle like you’ve never seen.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:45 – 3:45)

Right.

[Mr. Stanley] (3:48 – 4:07)

Basically, what we think is that the battle is that a lot of people are caught off their short right now, carrying the naked shorts. So they’re doing everything impossible staying in position right now. So they’re trying to drive the market down.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (4:08 – 4:30)

Right. Now, one of the questions that I actually had with today, not today, but Friday’s 8K filing, it contained audited financials. Now, with those audited financials, what else is pending or what is the perceived delay in terms of issuing the 10K?

[Mr. Harris] (4:35 – 5:07)

The final 10K in this merger agreement, all we have to do is take the company’s last 10Q information, add all of our public information that we’ve already filed and all of our PRs and everything to it, and all the information already filed in 8Ks. Reference them and file it. It’s that easy.

The 10K’s not an issue. The market’s an issue. We’re dealing with them as of this time.

This week’s going to be very exciting. There’s going to be some things that’s going to happen in CSHD that hasn’t happened in any stock ever before.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (5:07 – 5:08)

Okay. Right.

[Mr. Harris] (5:08 – 5:09)

This week.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (5:09 – 5:34)

And I think a lot of people have actually been looking forward to this for quite some time. Now, one of the listeners actually asked, can you help us understand what might be the holdup, which I think you touched on. You said, not we, but all the company needs to do is provide the last 10Q along with the public information, which all of that you already have.

You have that collected.

[Mr. Harris] (5:34 – 5:55)

Everyone has it. It’s already there in 8Ks. We filed every document and everything as it’s to include the merger.

The only thing we’re going to add to it is future business. We’ll mention it, and there’ll be a few snips and tucks there and there with a paragraph about this bond and that bond and other business contracts that we’re… That’s the only thing we’ll add to it.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (5:56 – 5:57)

Sure. Sure.

[Mr. Harris] (5:57 – 5:59)

All of the public information is already in everyone’s hands.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (5:59 – 6:17)

Right. Exactly. And I think that’s part of the confusion from some people is, if it’s basically already out there, if it’s pretty much a done deal, what was the purpose behind the 12B, the filing of the extension?

It seems like…

[Mr. Harris] (6:17 – 6:35)

Why did we file the NT? Right. We have a few things that we need to deal with in the market.

Well, I don’t know. There’s some things that we are planning on dealing with, and it will be handled within the next couple of days.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (6:35 – 6:36)

Okay.

[Mr. Stanley] (6:36 – 6:50)

We have a lot of great things. We have a lot of great things that’s going to happen. I mean, it’s things that we have that’s ongoing business and things that haven’t even been announced yet that’s going to take place here shortly.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (6:51 – 7:07)

Okay. So there’s just some loose ends that you guys are wanting to finalize before releasing the 10K, and it sounds like by Friday, the 10K will have already been filed. Is that fair to say?

[Mr. Harris] (7:09 – 7:30)

I’m not going to say that by Friday, it’ll be filed. We’re just going to receive our last piece of information to file it on Thursday at five o’clock. We may file it on Friday, to be honest with you, or maybe Monday.

So there is another piece of information that we have ordered from a government agency that we will receive on Thursday night at close of business.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (7:31 – 7:31)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (7:31 – 7:51)

That information will tell our executive team exactly where our company stands in the market, with the market, with the institutions.

That’s why we’re posting everything. How many companies have you ever seen post the DTC sheet? How many companies have you ever seen post the NOBO list?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (7:52 – 7:52)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (7:53 – 8:07)

We want everybody to study this so in the future, they can look at similar companies that they are concerned with and gauge naked short-selling against their investors.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (8:08 – 8:56)

Right. It sounds good. Your rhetorical question brings me to one of the points I was heading toward, and that is Overstock.com.

Overstock.com is basically in a situation that Conversion Solutions is. There may be a little further along the life cycle, if you will, in terms of battling the naked shorts. Patrick has done a great job in terms of being an advocate against the SEC and what’s going on illegally, and they’re allowing it to happen.

Likewise, Patrick has released the DTCC NOBO list, but his stock continues to be under attack.

[Mr. Harris] (8:57 – 9:13)

There’s something that he hasn’t done that we will do this week, which will eliminate it. That’s why I stated in the past, it’s not an attempted short squeeze, it’s a short elimination. We’ve given long enough, and at this point, on our next step, there will be no question.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (9:14 – 9:14)

Right.

[Mr. Stanley] (9:15 – 9:32)

And not only that, we’re protecting our business. Our business is first, and far more most to deliver what we say that we’re going to deliver. And that’s what our company is mainly focused on, is delivering.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (9:33 – 10:00)

Right. Okay. Now, with regards to some of these claims that I guess a lot of the bashers or the shorters, however you want to describe them, from Our Street, Stock Lemon, or whoever, whatever variable or name you want to use to describe these folks, they’ve made claims that they’ve tried to reach and contact you in terms of getting a rebuttal to some of the information.

[Mr. Harris] (10:00 – 10:00)

Our stock?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (10:01 – 10:02)

Yeah, our stock.

[Mr. Harris] (10:02 – 10:03)

Our Street?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (10:03 – 10:04)

Right, right.

[Mr. Harris] (10:04 – 10:14)

Whoa, look, see, a guy like that, why would I waste my time? Why would we waste our time to sit down with a guy?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (10:14 – 10:15)

Why?

[Mr. Harris] (10:15 – 10:28)

Someone that would go out and post lies and fraudulent questions, why? Why? Someone that spends stuff and tries to twist it into a negative way, why give him anything?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (10:29 – 10:32)

I understood. Right, I was going to say it.

[Mr. Stanley] (10:33 – 10:45)

If they’re not for the company, and they don’t have a suggestion of how the company should move forward and there’s all negative information, we’re not interested.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (10:45 – 11:01)

Okay. Right. And that makes a lot of sense from my own perspective.

It’s like, okay, yeah, you know, why, you know, if you wrestle with the pigs, you’re going to get dirty, and the pigs are going to like it. You know, that makes a lot of sense to me. My question, though, is…

[Mr. Harris] (11:01 – 11:05)

Let me help you. Now, see, we gave him an invitation to Atlanta, to Kennesaw.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (11:06 – 11:07)

You gave him…

[Mr. Harris] (11:07 – 11:16)

He sent terms to us that he wanted to sign off on, and one of them was that we would not serve him with papers, and we would not agree to that.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (11:17 – 11:20)

Okay. And just for…

[Mr. Harris] (11:20 – 11:33)

And I’ve got a suspicion. I have also been told, now this is a rumor, that quote-unquote Timothy Miles is actually one of your friends by the name of Tim from PQL Research, or Resources. Is that possible?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (11:33 – 11:40)

I really don’t think so, because Tim from PQL Research actually lives in New Jersey, here in the United States.

[Mr. Harris] (11:44 – 11:47)

Well, anybody will do anything when they’re doing it.

[Mr. Stanley] (11:49 – 11:51)

We’re trying to locate him.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (11:51 – 11:52)

Sure. Right.

[Mr. Harris] (11:52 – 11:59)

All you have to do is step forward and come to our office. If he wants to ask any questions, I guarantee you we’ll sit down and ask any questions he wants to.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (12:00 – 12:00)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (12:00 – 12:03)

And then I promise you he’s going to have to answer a lot of questions also.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (12:03 – 12:15)

Sure, sure. Right. Exactly.

Now, yeah, again, you know, is Timothy Miles the same person as Tim from PQL Research? I highly doubt it, and the only thing, the reason I say that is…

[Mr. Harris] (12:15 – 12:24)

Well, the reason I’m telling you is Our Street has posted… We’ve got people monitoring the board as far as when they send us these posts on every post that these guys do on a daily basis.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (12:24 – 12:24)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (12:24 – 12:56)

I’ve actually asked the market to assist us, and we receive it from about 20 different people every day, so our email is drastically overwhelmed. But thank you shareholders for that. We definitely appreciate it, and it has allowed us to monitor and narrow the situations down with these people.

He has also pushed, and the guy that posted it on Our Street on iHub has also pushed the same stock that Tim from PQL Research got on your sub-radio one night and pushed.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (12:57 – 12:57)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (12:57 – 13:07)

I mean, he didn’t just push it. He actually was comparing it to us, which I don’t understand, on your radio show. Do you remember the time he was doing that?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (13:08 – 13:12)

I do remember when he was talking about another stock, yes, and he was making some comparisons.

[Mr. Harris] (13:13 – 13:16)

Well, I don’t understand that. That’s kind of strange, too.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (13:17 – 13:18)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (13:18 – 13:19)

If it is the same individual.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (13:20 – 13:20)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (13:20 – 13:24)

But needless to say, Our Street step forward.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (13:24 – 13:25)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (13:25 – 13:28)

Come to our office. We’ll set up a meeting without a problem whatsoever. Let’s do it.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (13:29 – 13:35)

Sure, sure. Now, I mean, I think it’s interesting. You know, again…

[Mr. Harris] (13:35 – 13:39)

Same thing for Demi and for Will Smith.

[Mr. Stanley] (13:41 – 13:44)

It’s a bunch of them. We’re trying to lock in right now.

[Mr. Harris] (13:44 – 13:45)

It’s not limited. Come on.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (13:46 – 13:46)

Right, right.

[Mr. Harris] (13:46 – 13:50)

Come to our office. Feel free. We’ll set the meeting up in the time frame.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (13:50 – 14:25)

Sure. But let me ask you this question because it actually ties in with what we’re talking about. Earlier, I’d asked you what your thoughts were with regards to Stock Lemon and also Our Street, and you had made the comment that you really don’t have time to deal with those type of individuals, which makes sense from my perspective.

That said, if that’s the current mindset, or I guess it is the current mindset, whenever Stock Lemon first initiated their first coverage or their first report on Conversion Solutions, I don’t remember if it was you or the company, whichever it was.

[Mr. Harris] (14:25 – 14:51)

It was the company. We issued a statement to them and told them to cease and desist. And we also told them that we were starting a lawsuit.

Anyone that sold, we received several hundred names from shareholders that actually sold based upon those websites, and that data is being collected. And for those people who perpetrated fraud, we will assist the shareholders that lose their money in recovery.

[Mr. Stanley] (14:52 – 15:00)

And let me tell you, it’s not saying we’re putting it off.

We’re not putting it off. We’re working on it, and we have our legal team working on it as we speak.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (15:01 – 15:29)

Okay. All right. And the reason I wanted to address this issue was because I’m sure there’s a lot of people, and I’m playing devil’s advocate here, a lot of people would say, well, it must be true because Stock Lemon and Our Street and whoever else, they’re making these claims that they’ve tried to contact the company and the company has all of a sudden just decided not to respond.

So the bashers or the shorters might say, see, it must be true because there’s no…

[Mr. Harris] (15:29 – 15:43)

I don’t know who they’re contacting. I haven’t received anything. I received an email from a guy, and there’s no way to know that that’s who it is.

In either way, these type of individuals or these type of frauds, all they strive on is the attention.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (15:44 – 15:45)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (15:45 – 15:50)

And the more people that respond to their attention, the bigger their story gets.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (15:50 – 15:51)

Right.

[Mr. Stanley] (15:51 – 16:10)

Yes, and the only thing they’re looking for is trying to build a negative image on the company.

Right. And we know where all negative things come from, so we’re not interested in hosting it at this particular time. Our legal team will handle it, and they will deliver.

[Mr. Harris] (16:12 – 16:17)

With that being said, Ben, I do think the invitation for him to come to the office is still open.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (16:17 – 16:17)

Right.

[Mr. Stanley] (16:18 – 16:22)

I mean, I understand that. Bring him on. They can come.

They’re welcome to come.

[Mr. Harris] (16:22 – 16:28)

We will give you the time if you come to the office. We will not sign any waivers, though, my friend.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (16:29 – 16:50)

All right. Now, one individual I identify as Barbecue Chicken. Barbecue Chicken would like to know, with today, not today, but Friday’s cited $7.21 book value, will the reset be at the book value, or how does the reset value come into play? Who determines that?

[Mr. Harris] (16:51 – 17:37)

Okay, well, the reset, if you go back, all of that was equated in the 8K merger that was filed immediately upon the execution of this merger agreement. That’s where the $15 comes from.

The $7.21 was our current financials at the time, and when you double it, it gives you roughly $15. So we just went two times. A lot of IPOs go out, or the past resets do not base their number on that.

Sometimes they just set their number and apply to the SEC. It’s like when Google went out. They were asking for a larger IPO, and they narrowed it down to, what, $85 million on the initial outset?

So that is governed by the authorities.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (17:37 – 17:46)

Okay. So for anyone that may be listening, the reset will be $15. It’s not going to be $25.

It’s not going to be $30.

[Mr. Harris] (17:46 – 17:50)

It is what was filed in the merger agreement. That is our reset price.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (17:50 – 17:51)

Okay. All right. Hands down.

[Mr. Harris] (17:51 – 18:06)

Now, what will maintain that price is read the 8Ks and the press releases we’ve been sending to everyone. The 8K there on the SEC website will tell exactly what we have.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (18:06 – 18:07)

Sure. Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (18:08 – 18:27)

Without a shadow of a doubt. So I can promise you one thing. Myself and Ben Stanley will not risk our life and the lives of our family and the risk of our children to do any fraud.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (18:27 – 18:28)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (18:28 – 18:37)

We are totally against it. We have dealt with these sharks once before in the company that we were in in the past. That’s how we know we can nail them.

[Mr. Stanley] (18:38 – 18:40)

And the same thing is happening.

[Mr. Harris] (18:40 – 18:41)

Exactly.

[Mr. Stanley] (18:42 – 18:45)

And it’s just like playing chess right now.

[Mr. Harris] (18:45 – 18:56)

I’m going to tell you how typical they are to perform. We’ve even called that they would hit the Berlin exchange when they did. We got your number, fellas.

[Mr. Stanley] (18:57 – 19:02)

No, we’re coming on and we’re watching.

[Mr. Harris] (19:02 – 19:32)

Just wait a couple of days. It’s the same thing.

See, on the 29th is when the changeover of the service was dead. If you go back and read all rules and regulations, not one company that holds an FTD after the 29th or naked short can call for their share. So shareholders, something’s coming your way will give you everything you need to call your broker and say, why is my name not on that list?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (19:34 – 19:42)

Interesting. All right. Sounds good.

Sounds good. Now, S.J. wants to know when the next barbecue with shareholders will be.

[Mr. Harris] (19:44 – 19:48)

Actually, I wish we could finish this thing off. We’re talking about having one this weekend.

[Mr. Stanley] (19:49 – 19:52)

Yeah, we’ve been talking about it.

We’ve been discussing bringing it in.

[Mr. Harris] (19:53 – 20:01)

We kind of feel this will be the last warm summer that we’re having here in Georgia. So it would be the last time to have a good cookout for everybody.

[Mr. Stanley] (20:01 – 20:11)

We did see the invitations to Vegas on the weekend of Thanksgiving that we might consider to as well.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (20:11 – 20:23)

OK. All right. Another question is with regards to the MN1 PR, there was a lot of conversation around the fraudulent PR that they placed out.

[Mr. Harris] (20:24 – 20:51)

Yeah, I do have a comment on that. And everybody, it’s not going to be too bad at work, but is that not some crazy crap? That is the craziest crap.

That’s way out there. That shows you the desperation that these guys are into. OK, when the buying pressure hit the stock, the only thing they could do was put out a PR, a false PR, a fake PR.

And what amazes me is that they’re still walking the street.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (20:51 – 20:52)

Sure.

[Mr. Harris] (20:52 – 21:20)

And the FTC and the Fed having knocked on their door and say, fellas, we’re coming after you. I did hear that Ford Traders was pulled off of the floor by federal marshals and the FTC on Friday. I wonder if there’s any tie between them, the firm, and a selective market maker to MN1, because it’s my understanding that MN1 is owned by a broker’s firm.

Does anyone know if that’s true or not?

[Mr. Stanley] (21:20 – 21:22)

I mean, that’s the same thing that I heard as well.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (21:22 – 21:29)

Yeah, I think that’s that’s some speculation. That was a that was a theory that James, one of the shareholders, was putting together.

[Mr. Stanley] (21:29 – 21:43)

Well, that was an ex. It was it was someone that was working. I guess they’re sold, but they’re still having control and interest and still dictating some of that security for what we’ve been told.

[Mr. Harris] (21:44 – 22:24)

Yeah, and say these guys have actually helped. I’m gonna be honest with you. They’ve got out and draw so much attention to it.

They’ve performed a legal duty writing the market fraud in front of everyone. Anyone that’s watching this stock was just the shareholder. I would recall by a group of shareholders that were getting together and they were going to file a lawsuit themselves against MN1 and just wanted us to cooperate with them.

I think it’s hilarious. Let them write a book. If they want to go out and do if they want to commit fraud, let them.

Hey, MN1 announcers. It’s your metal bracelet that they’re going to put on, but not mine.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (22:24 – 22:24)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (22:25 – 22:27)

You want to wear and wear it.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (22:27 – 22:28)

That’s that’s interesting.

[Mr. Harris] (22:29 – 22:48)

This is some crazy stuff. They’ve called so much attention to us when we’re contacted by and reported so much fraud. We tell the people, go check it out.

If you’re high enough, you have a high enough authority to verify your clear screen and go in and look at our account and what we actually have on screen, please do so.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (22:48 – 22:48)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (22:49 – 23:18)

And one of the new spins that these guys are spinning is when they grab a Q-Step. Well, they don’t know anything about Euroclear, so they’re ignorant. So when they start talking about this Q-Step only has 700 million.

Well, when you go into the Euroclear system, that was the Q-Step that was used to load a screen on separate windows behind that screen is multiple numbers of bonds of the same release. OK.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (23:18 – 23:19)

Yeah.

[Mr. Harris] (23:20 – 23:33)

So just because your broker cannot validate it or your broker tells you 700 million, your broker doesn’t know everything. Trust me. Have you made any money with them?

I doubt very seriously.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (23:34 – 23:34)

Sure.

[Mr. Stanley] (23:34 – 23:35)

Oh, man.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (23:35 – 23:48)

Sure. Now, now, Joy, one of the other listeners has asked if if you could share any suggestions in terms of how shareholders as a group can help stop the naked short selling.

[Mr. Stanley] (23:49 – 23:59)

I think right now I have to watch CSHD. Yeah. Watch it. Watch it. It’s tight and hold on and we’re going to deliver.

[Mr. Harris] (23:59 – 24:35)

We have been informed that there’s two universities that are right near people inside of classes, economic classes.

They’re writing their thesis on they’ve actually studied it and understand what’s coming. They know the next step and they’ve sent it to us and said they’re labeled it the perfect storm. And it’s not what we intended.

These guys come after this stock. Not us. The people performing the illegal action is is the people selling naked choices, not us.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (24:36 – 24:37)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (24:37 – 25:06)

We don’t have a concern about it. You’re going to get you’re going the share price will be where it is. There’s nothing you can do, sell it short sell it again.

Go ahead, fellas. We’ll do it to you again. And when this is over with, try come back.

I promise you we have eliminated naked short selling. And if it doesn’t work out through the SEC, there is enough congressional committees that are watching this thing right now and we’ll straighten it out.

[Mr. Stanley] (25:07 – 25:11)

So when you say all right … It will have to dealt with this time.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (25:11 – 25:26)

Right. Now, let me ask you for a clarification. When you say you’ve eliminated naked shorts, are you speaking you’ve eliminated them completely regardless of security or you’re specifically talking about naked shorting on CSHD?

[Mr. Stanley] (25:26 – 25:48)

No, I’m thinking we thinking that this would help the the world market. Not just the CSHD, but people would be. I mean, it’d be geared to come out and do it again because of the repercussions.

That’s what’s going to happen because of it.

[Mr. Harris] (25:49 – 25:56)

Let me ask you one question. You’re you’re set and evaluate charts all the time and you give your opinion on issues.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (25:57 – 25:57)

Correct.

[Mr. Harris] (25:58 – 26:00)

OK, help me here.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (26:00 – 26:00)

Yes.

[Mr. Harris] (26:04 – 26:13)

How and what is your opinion as to why? Listed CSHD on the Berlin exchange and traded a lot of shares.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (26:14 – 26:16)

Now, say that again, because you were fading in and out.

[Mr. Harris] (26:17 – 26:27)

You said, how did someone list CSHD on the Berlin exchange and start trading shares? And what is your opinion as to why they would do that?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (26:29 – 26:33)

How they did it. I’m sure that there’s a process that needs to go through in order to make that happen.

[Mr. Harris] (26:33 – 26:34)

Wouldn’t it have to come through?

[Mr. Stanley] (26:34 – 26:36)

We would have to authorize it.

[Mr. Harris] (26:36 – 26:41)

You just can’t go and say, this is my company.

I want to list it.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (26:42 – 26:42)

Agreed. Yes.

[Mr. Harris] (26:43 – 26:46)

OK, so is there not a process that has to be followed?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (26:47 – 26:48)

I would I would expect there to be.

[Mr. Harris] (26:49 – 27:11)

What you get from people on that is, oh, it’s not the U.S. Well, fellas, we’re trading right now in the worst case scenario. We’re being hit by so much crap. You say it fraudulent PRs.

Come on in and then come out and we’re sorry that was a mistake. But what was the whole show about? Our Street.

[Mr. Stanley] (27:11 – 27:26)

Yeah, but let’s go back to the other question, which you just asked. You know, basically, basically, that change was set up to cover their necks and shorts so they can work the market here and keep the stock prices down. Bottom line.

[Mr. Harris] (27:28 – 27:30)

Where did they get the shares to get on that market with?

[Mr. Stanley] (27:31 – 27:32)

They don’t have any.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (27:34 – 27:49)

So so what if I if I hear what you’re saying and if I if I understand it correctly, you’re saying that that CSHD is currently trading on the Berlin market and you, nor anyone within Conversion Solutions has actually authorized that action to take place?

[Mr. Stanley] (27:50 – 27:54)

There’s only there’s only two people that could did it and they’re on the phone right now, with you.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (27:54 – 27:57)

Right. But but the question I asked was yes or no.

[Mr. Harris] (27:57 – 27:59)

So, no, we have not.

[Mr. Stanley] (27:59 – 28:00)

We have not.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (28:00 – 28:02)

OK. All right.

[Mr. Harris] (28:02 – 28:07)

This isn’t the first time we’ve seen this move. OK, desperation that we knew it was coming.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (28:08 – 28:09)

Interesting.

[Mr. Harris] (28:09 – 28:36)

And after the 29th, they were in trouble. They cannot that there’s laws written against it. And I’m going to tell you this, and I’m not pushing the board, not pushing it by no means, Hot Stock Market.

The reason I go there and your bashers are going to say, oh, he’s over there and it’s a cold, you know, these people would say any damn thing. The reason we go to Hot Stock Market is because they do diligence the crap out of everything. And it’s free.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (28:37 – 28:38)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (28:38 – 29:15)

You can’t hire a broker today to sit down and give you as much that’s going to hold your hand and evaluate a stock and grab it and say, dude, I think this is a winner. Put all your money in it. We’re not going to do it.

These people on that side are protecting their investment. They get out and do so much due diligence on that site. I find it fascinating.

If you’re in the know, you can actually read the post on there and see the intelligent people. And know that they have to be of a certain intelligence level and knowledge to even know some of the due diligence that they’re finding.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (29:16 – 29:16)

Exactly.

[Mr. Harris] (29:17 – 31:03)

One thing that everyone hasn’t found that I’m shocked about is all of our documents to include CSHD, Wattle, all the mergers, all the contracts with our bonds and everything are public records. We filed them in the courthouse. We go to Superior Court in the state of Georgia, pay $9, sign on.

You can look at every document we have. Put in Conversion Solutions, Hogan’s Court, every document. Our goal for shareholders is to have a real-time investment.

We’re heading into a new corporation. We’ve already achieved it. We’re going to be able to guarantee you as a CEO and COO to the shareholders.

For what we’re doing for you, it will be for the betterment of the company. There will be problems that come up along the way that change time frames and everything. But what we say, we will do.

Or, me and Ben either one will die doing it. Our reputation is all you have today. That’s why these guys attack the reputation.

That’s why they go after not the true stuff. They can’t come out and say, okay, this right here violates this SEC rule. They never do that.

If a basher did that, okay, he could prove it to everyone. The stock should drop down to 10 cents. It’s just a manipulation.

And fellas, I promise all of you, you’ve grabbed the wrong tiger by the tail. You have grabbed the wrong tiger by the tail. And it has already eaten you.

And you are just alive in its stomach.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (31:05 – 31:05)

There you go.

[Mr. Harris] (31:05 – 31:08)

You will realize it very shortly what’s coming your way.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (31:08 – 31:36)

All right. Let me ask you a question. And again, understand that the questions I ask are a lot of times just devil’s advocate.

So if I were to pretend I was a basher, some of the things I’ve heard different bashers say is, well, within different interviews, within different Pal Talk sessions, you’ve never given any kind of safe harbor statement. And that’s a big no-no.

[Mr. Harris] (31:37 – 31:55)

My directors and other officers of corporations have even signed waivers to me and saying, we highly and strictly recommend to you, my attorney has everything, that you put this safe harbor in it. Listen, ladies and gentlemen, if it’s not the truth, it don’t need to be in the PR. Who knows?

[Mr. Stanley] (31:55 – 31:56)

So correct.

[Mr. Harris] (31:57 – 32:14)

Okay. You don’t need a safe harbor if it’s fact.

Why would you need a safe harbor? What do you need to say? We’re not going out and projecting.

We haven’t went out and said, okay, we’ve sat down with two sovereign governors and looking at another 50 billion in bills. No. If you say shit like that, then you got to protect yourself.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (32:15 – 32:15)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (32:15 – 32:21)

We don’t say anything. We only post facts. And 90% of the time, it’s after it’s already contractual.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (32:22 – 32:22)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (32:23 – 32:37)

So why do you need a safe harbor? If the contract goes bad, guess what? I come out and tell you it went bad.

Now, how am I liable for that? Why do you need to protect that? I don’t see the truth.

[Mr. Stanley] (32:37 – 32:46)

The truth is the truth. Negative things come from one way. And we reside on the truth.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (32:47 – 32:47)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (32:47 – 32:49)

So we deliver it.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (32:49 – 33:03)

All right. So what I’m hearing you say is as long as not only you, Rufus, but any CEO, as long as the CEO is presenting nothing but documented facts, there is no need for a safe harbor to be made.

[Mr. Harris] (33:05 – 33:21)

You can quote myself for saying that. That is our opinion. That’s why I will not come around.

I told the board to vote me out. I don’t care. I’ll go somewhere else and start another company.

Me and Ben started this one anyway. We can start another one tomorrow.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (33:22 – 33:22)

Sure.

[Mr. Harris] (33:22 – 33:31)

We have the financial contacts to fund me. So look, I don’t see a reason to do it if you know it’s fact.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (33:31 – 33:32)

Right. Right. Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (33:32 – 33:40)

Why go out and say in the future things may change? Well, if you don’t know that, you definitely are not an intelligent investor.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (33:41 – 33:41)

True.

[Mr. Harris] (33:41 – 33:47)

Because anyone that’s ever invested in the market knows from day to day you’re rich or you’re broke.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (33:48 – 33:49)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (33:49 – 33:52)

So why do I need to remind you of it every time I tell you a fact?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (33:53 – 34:15)

And I think a lot of times people just get in the habit of saying it as a disclaimer. But changing away from that, one thing that keeps on coming up in terms of messages from the listeners, they’re wanting to know, there was apparently an Investor Hub message that you had posted.

[Mr. Harris] (34:15 – 34:17)

Yes, I posted on Investor Hub several times.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (34:17 – 34:18)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (34:18 – 35:15)

Yes, I’m going to give you my opinion, and my attorney’s probably going to say I better add a safe harbor to it. But we have been monitoring this and watching it, and we have tied several of the moderators on iHub to past major pump and dumps that have even went down by the SEC. And it just so happens, bam, here comes R Street posting on the same iHub board.

I went out there because people were sending me very, very nice stuff, and I was receiving them in emails, and they were all at Investor Hub. That’s why I went to Investor Hub. JJ’s the one that called me.

Come to find out, JJ was the director of CMKX. 250 million shares in the market. I mean, they’ve bought people up on money laundering charges.

The SEC’s arrested people. And he’s a moderator on the board pushing stock. Okay.

Okay.

[Mr. Stanley] (35:16 – 35:17)

Some we already dealt with.

[Mr. Harris] (35:17 – 35:41)

Every time I post on the board anything, I can go out and say, R Street, you’re a liar.

They delete my post. Why? Because I’m the CEO of the company calling a fraud a liar?

Come on. You have an alternate motive, and you’re telling the market. Everyone knows it.

They’re watching you. Everything you post, they send it to it. And it’s all going to stop the fraud at CVSU.US.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (35:42 – 35:52)

Okay. Now, the specific question about the iPost had to do with you had actually been out at Investor Hub and made the post of a reset price of $54. Now, earlier, we-

[Mr. Harris] (35:53 – 37:14)

No, I’m going to tell you what. I was responding smart-alecky to Demi. Now, see, here’s the truth.

And the truth hurts. Demi is an individual that was a shareholder in the past company I told you that we dealt with all the crooks on. Mm-hmm.

I- that’s what he- that’s what he goes under on Raging Bull. And I think it’s still on iHub. He contacted and asked a lot of questions.

I answered them. Everything was going good until he sent an investment bill. I told him I didn’t want to invest into it.

And the next thing you know, I’m a bad person on the board. So I don’t understand things like this. I don’t see how people function.

It doesn’t bother me. Whatever. Do what you want to, Demi.

It’s your life, your friends. I also quoted to him one day, you know, all the people that- of your friends, when they missed out on this because you lied to them and you called me a fraud. It may pull you out in the street and stone you when this is over with.

I wouldn’t want my friends to find out. I would never want to say to my friend, I know that that deal was a scam and it turned out to be real. You don’t have a reputation anymore.

I can’t trust you on anything else you say. If you can’t speak the truth, why speak at all?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (37:15 – 37:15)

Exactly. So-

[Mr. Harris] (37:16 – 37:17)

That comes from teeth in New York.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (37:18 – 37:18)

Okay.

[Mr. Stanley] (37:19 – 37:27)

Not saying that we’re not going to reach that goal, but you know, hey, you know, it’s up to the market and up to the people.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (37:27 – 37:42)

Right. So let me ask you, let me see if I got this correct. So with respect to the post on iHub where Rufus had posted a reset price of $54, that was actually in reply to-

[Mr. Harris] (37:42 – 37:58)

No, no, no. I was in reply. What I was posting was, is that if you factor, if you go back and read it, what I come back and said, if you recalculated it now, it’s actually $54. And that is true.

It’s actually a lot more than that.

[Mr. Stanley] (37:58 – 37:59)

We have assets.

[Mr. Harris] (38:00 – 38:06)

It’s actually a lot more than that.

We have the bonds in our account. They’re on screen in our name.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (38:07 – 38:07)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (38:07 – 38:43)

It’s an asset. We’re an asset management company. We’re going to take liquid, anything that’s liquidated, that we can liquidate and use to generate cash and originate off of.

Projects we’re going to fund all will have revenue streams that will support our origination. The world market doesn’t have a problem with it. We’re not concerned with what most of these secondary market makers are playing this little game about the stock.

It doesn’t matter. They can, what they’re doing is they’re just trying to manipulate real shares out of shareholders. And that’s what we want to stop.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (38:43 – 38:44)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (38:44 – 39:01)

They can’t stop what’s happening. The inevitable is it. You can’t change it.

You cannot change the merger. You can’t go back and say, this didn’t happen. All right.

You can’t tell people, oh, well, they’ll get them one day. That’s all they’re trying to do. Pay attention to how they spin this stuff.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (39:02 – 39:02)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (39:02 – 40:48)

Okay. They cannot change that.

We have it. It’s all real. You will see it as it is.

Everything is reported. We don’t hold things for a time frame. When we sign a contract, we turn around, load it, regularize it, and it’s on screen as soon as it can get there.

We want everyone to be informed. Our ultimate goal is to become a real time investment company. The first one.

We have orchestrated and put together a website and a platform for a whole company to operate off of. Every one of our subsidiaries and every company that follows us to operate off of one platform. So every bank account can be viewed by the shareholders real time.

I want you to be able to go to our website, pull up our financials, and see that a $50,000 check was just cashed by Bank of America on AISS’s project. I want every investor to be up to date. I promise you we have put a great package together with a group from Atlanta.

It is beautiful. Our shareholders are going to have their own login, their own sign on that’s going to be linked to their certificate numbers. They’re going to be able to do real time processing.

We’re going to submit surveys to our shareholders. You can make the decision. If 90% of the people feel they don’t want us to invest in something in the future, our shareholder, anyone that owns a share, will be able to log up and make a decision and vote to share it.

We have this in place. We’re installing it. It’s a big platform with Oracle, Oracle-based, and it is fascinating.

We’re very excited about that.

[Mr. Stanley] (40:49 – 40:49)

We’re very.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (40:50 – 40:59)

Right. Now, just so that we’re all on the same page, because I think that there’s still some confusion with regards to the… Please understand, Rufus.

[Mr. Harris] (40:59 – 41:00)

Go ahead.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (41:00 – 41:03)

I’m not trying to irritate you or be real simple or concrete about this.

[Mr. Harris] (41:03 – 41:05)

Are you going back to the $54 question?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (41:05 – 41:17)

Yes. And the reason I’m going back to that is because there’s a couple of numbers being thrown out. There’s the book value of $7.21. We already understand that. That’s current, you know…

[Mr. Harris] (41:17 – 41:21)

That book value actually was as of the day of the signing of the merger, so you know. It’s not as of today.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (41:21 – 41:22)

Okay.

[Mr. Stanley] (41:22 – 41:22)

That’s correct.

[Mr. Harris] (41:23 – 41:35)

That’s your spend. That’s what the people are spending.

The real intelligent people don’t say, wait a second. We’ve got this bond, this bond, this bond, and this bond divided by how many shares is out there. Guess what?

You got the DTC report. It’s on our website.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (41:36 – 41:36)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (41:36 – 41:40)

It got updated tonight. Divide it by the $37 million. That is the flow.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (41:40 – 41:41)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (41:43 – 41:45)

When we get it in our hands, you’re going to have it.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (41:46 – 41:46)

Okay.

[Mr. Stanley] (41:46 – 41:52)

Take our total asset value that we’ve impulsed and registered and go from there.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (41:52 – 42:08)

All right. So let me just see if I can actually break this out properly and say yes or no to the following. All right.

So the book value of $7.21, that was prior to the bonds being introduced, and that was the book value, correct?

[Mr. Harris] (42:09 – 42:09)

Right.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (42:09 – 42:11)

Okay. So $7.21…

[Mr. Harris] (42:11 – 42:20)

That was that merger. That was as of the day we signed the deal with Front Haul, and Michael Alexander, the majority shareholder, voted, and we finished it off.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (42:20 – 42:33)

Okay. So $7… Okay.

So $7.21, that was the first number. Then we came up with a $15 price reset, and that was outlined in different SEC filings.

[Mr. Harris] (42:33 – 42:43)

2.6 of the merger, and 8KA and the last 8KA of the merger. 2.6 of the options. That’s what a 15 is.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (42:43 – 42:43)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (42:43 – 42:46)

Exactly. The corporation had three options under that.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (42:46 – 42:46)

Yes.

[Mr. Harris] (42:46 – 43:00)

We’ve actually voted to… We’ve debated buying all the shares back from the shareholders at $15. Halt market and buy it back and put the money in escrow.

The problem with that is, what are all these brokers going to do that the people don’t have real shares?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (43:01 – 43:02)

Mm-hmm.

[Mr. Harris] (43:02 – 43:03)

What are they going to do at that point?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (43:04 – 43:04)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (43:05 – 43:54)

How many companies would that bankrupt? When their shareholders are going in there and say, get me my $15, you don’t have a third.

You’re not holding… You’re holding air. I’m sorry.

We traded air. I got a great one for you. We put a press release out about it to the Ameritrade.

Give me an explanation. How is it legal that you can limit a buy and sell to your client? I don’t care what you’re…

Okay, you signed it when you filled out your application. You agreed to this. We hold this right.

I think what I’m saying, what law makes it legal? I don’t care if you said it’s legal. What SEC regulation says one of their brokers or someone can limit whether you buy or sell a publicly traded company?

[Mr. Stanley] (43:55 – 44:03)

And not only TGA and Ameritrade, but also we’ve been hearing that on AT Edwards as well.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (44:04 – 44:13)

Right, right. Different listeners have actually provided those two brokers by name in terms of who has restricted buys on CSHD, but going…

[Mr. Harris] (44:13 – 44:39)

Somebody do the diligence and find out a law that allows them to do it. If you list it and you handle it, how can… What law is written in the United States of America that says a broker dealer can prevent…

It can sell it. Okay, let’s say they say we’re fraud. Now, that really doesn’t work.

That’s a double negative all the way. But you can sell fraudulent shares, but we won’t buy them for you.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (44:40 – 44:41)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (44:42 – 46:11)

Now, that doesn’t fit in. If they’re selling shares that they say, we’re protecting you. This is a high risk, and we feel that they’re not going to perform what they’re saying.

We’re protecting you. Then if that’s the case, and you’re allowing them to sell, you’re also hurting the market. It’s fraud, and you participate in it by selling a share.

Who perpetrated the fraud? The person selling the share or the person that was posting it out to the SEC and the public? The person that profits from it is the…

If we… If myself and Ben, we haven’t sold a share or made a dime off of it. We get salaries and that’s it off of all this.

No one. Wattle shareholders are just now receiving shares. They’ve been there for over two years.

They were with us when we started our first holding company, Wattle Holdings in Arizona. And they stuck with us. And it’s due time they get their just reward.

Sure. Are some of them in the market? I wouldn’t doubt it.

I probably would be if I was in some of the states that some of them are in. You see $30 million traded in a day on a stock that’s supposed to only have 30 million shares in the float. What’s it going to hurt to go out there and get $50,000, $100,000 for your pocket?

That’s why I told everybody, look, if these idiots are going to sell you air, buy it. Because sooner or later when this stuff hits, they got to cover it.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (46:12 – 46:13)

Right, right.

[Mr. Harris] (46:13 – 46:14)

Buy all of it you can get.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (46:14 – 46:25)

All right. So now let me ask you another question. Because again, going back, we know what the $7.21 comes from. We know the $15 comes from. But now with regard to the $54 post.

[Mr. Harris] (46:25 – 46:32)

The 54 at the time of the post with him is if we value the book value of the corporation, not the reset.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (46:32 – 46:33)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (46:33 – 46:51)

The reset would be 54. Take the book value and double it. At the time I made that post to him, if the merger was at that particular time.

And the assets were in the equation that was at the time I posted to Demi. Why are you pushing this? Is he your buddy or something?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (46:51 – 46:53)

No, no. In fact, I don’t know.

[Mr. Harris] (46:53 – 47:00)

I’ve answered the question four times in a row and you keep trying to twist it around. So what do you want me to say? You want me to say I said it?

Yes, sir. I said it.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (47:01 – 47:01)

No, no, no.

[Mr. Harris] (47:01 – 47:17)

You’re right. If you want an explanation for it, here’s the explanation again. At the time I posted that, you take the asset, you add it, divide it by the shares that were outstanding, and you get a book value.

You double the book value. That would have been the reset of 54 bucks at the time.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (47:17 – 47:17)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (47:17 – 47:21)

By the way, if we were to do it today, it would be a lot higher.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (47:21 – 47:22)

Right. Okay. Now.

[Mr. Stanley] (47:23 – 47:43)

Well, we’ve got some very, we’ve got some very exciting things that’s happening. It’s not even been even mentioned. And it’s all taking place.

I mean, it’s different things that was signed prior to all this that we’ve been bringing to a head, which the market is soon realized.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (47:44 – 47:47)

Okay. All right. Yeah.

[Mr. Harris] (47:48 – 48:07)

We’re telling everyone as soon as everything is in the hand where we can. We have a lot of projects worldwide. It’s fascinating.

Everyone’s coming in all of a sudden. I mean, if I told you who we met with today it would literally blow your mind.

[Mr. Stanley] (48:08 – 48:13)

Yeah. I mean, we’re very excited about what’s going on right now. We’re very excited.

[Mr. Harris] (48:14 – 48:14)

Right.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (48:14 – 48:15)

All right.

[Mr. Harris] (48:15 – 48:20)

We actually met with the nephew of the richest man in the world today. So if you can figure out who that is and everybody can go from there.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (48:21 – 48:34)

All right. So now another question is when the stock actually is halted and the price is reset, will the stock actually open on the NASDAQ or will it remain on the OTC BB?

[Mr. Harris] (48:37 – 48:47)

Now, that would be considered insider information. I’m not going to get a bump beside Martha Stewart.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (48:48 – 48:48)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (48:48 – 48:49)

All right.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (48:50 – 48:50)

That’s fine.

[Mr. Harris] (48:53 – 48:59)

It would be mighty nice to come out on the NASDAQ. Would it not?

[Mr. Stanley] (49:02 – 49:03)

That’s our goal.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (49:03 – 49:04)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (49:04 – 49:09)

It’s on our website. It has been for two and a half years.

The company’s listing goal is the NASDAQ.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (49:10 – 49:10)

Okay.

[Mr. Stanley] (49:10 – 49:11)

That’s our goal.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (49:12 – 49:35)

All right. So no. Okay.

And that’s fine. You know, if you feel that you cannot answer that question, that’s fine. Let us know.

I’m just repeating the questions that are actually coming in from the listeners. Now, one of the questions actually comes from James. I’m guessing you know James or know of James.

He would like to know, is there a possibility that you and Ben could actually join them in the spinoffs room in Pal Talk at some point?

[Mr. Harris] (49:36 – 50:11)

James, the last time we got on Pal Talk, I’m telling you, it was a bad thing. We caught a virus or two that came into the Pal Talk system. That was very strange.

And it was like watching a monkey hump a football. You couldn’t make sense out of it. I’m sorry.

We’re really not interested in doing Pal Talk or anything like that. This was a very rare occasion tonight. We just got overwhelmed all of a sudden.

Ben and I was talking about it and we said, hey, let’s give it a shot.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (50:11 – 50:11)

Sure.

[Mr. Harris] (50:11 – 50:12)

Let’s talk to him.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (50:12 – 50:13)

Sure.

[Mr. Harris] (50:13 – 50:14)

I want to ask you another question. I want to ask you another question.

[Mr. Stanley] (50:14 – 50:20)

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. Not only that, man, we end up on Pal Talk quite a bit.

[Mr. Harris] (50:20 – 50:45)

Yeah, yeah. You know, people, you can go to jail for that. When you call a CEO of a public company and say you’re Deutsche Bank, OK, and identify yourself as Deutsche Bank and then you stick them on Pal Talk, you can actually go to jail for that. Matter of fact, if I didn’t have both my lines tied up on my cell, I would put the number out from the guy that did it.

You can get in trouble for that stuff, people.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (50:46 – 50:47)

Well…

[Mr. Stanley] (50:48 – 50:52)

Look here. That’s why we stopped accepting a lot of the shareholder calls.

[Mr. Harris] (50:52 – 50:53)

That’s exactly why.

[Mr. Stanley] (50:54 – 51:06)

Every time we take a shareholder call on a radio show or something like that, when we’re when they got legitimate questions, they want to ask. Next thing we know, it’s all over.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (51:06 – 51:07)

Right, right.

[Mr. Harris] (51:08 – 51:14)

And then they hang the phone up with us and turn around and spin it. So it’s not for the betterment of the shareholders.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (51:14 – 51:16)

OK.

[Mr. Harris] (51:17 – 51:27)

It’s actually better that we stay out of that. And and and we started rejecting calls because three calls in a row that might have been set up on Pal Talk. I think … so we’re not interested.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (51:28 – 51:39)

OK, all right. Very good. Very good.

All right. Well, do you have any any other closing comments? I mean, I know there’s a lot of questions that have been sent in my way.

I’m not going to be able …

[Mr. Harris] (51:40 – 51:50)

Well go ahead, ask them. But let me get to do something. OK, evaluate the question like you would the chart on a company.

Before you ask it.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (51:52 – 51:53)

OK, no, right.

[Mr. Harris] (51:53 – 51:59)

If it’s an intelligent question, then ask it.

If it really is something silly, let’s try to stay away from it. Let’s not waste your time.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (52:00 – 52:18)

Sure. Well, actually, let me let me do this. If you’re willing to to to stay on the phone and take more questions from the listeners, let’s go ahead and do this.

Let me let me actually take a quick break. I’m going to play a couple of songs. I’ll put you guys on hold.

All right. And when we come back …

[Mr. Harris] (52:18 – 52:20)

I tell you what. How long? 15 minutes. We’ll call you back.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (52:20 – 52:22)

All right. You call me back in 15 minutes. All right.

[Mr. Harris] (52:22 – 52:23)

15 minutes.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (52:23 – 52:24)

All right. Thank you, Rufus.

[Mr. Harris] (52:24 – 52:25)

Talk to you then.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (52:25 – 53:24)

All right. Bye bye. All right.

So there you guys go. We are making an exception tonight. Normally I’m off 10 o’clock.

It’s now 1042. Now, one of the things I do want to manage expectations on you, the listener side. The questions that I did ask, you know who sent those questions in.

Great. There’s a lot of other questions I did not touch on. And I want to let you guys know something.

My instant message crashed. So that’s why I wanted to take a quick break. Those of you that sent in a question, you feel I did not ask your question in a few moments.

Not yet. All right. In a few moments, I want you to send those messages back in and I will ask those questions.

So meanwhile, I’m going to go ahead and play a couple of songs and we will be right back taking, uh, hopefully your questions and also Rufus’s answers. And you are listening to subpenny radio. We’ll be right back.

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[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (54:12 – 54:20)

And welcome back to subpenny radio. Whoa. Talk about after hours, huh? I’m telling you folks.

All right, let’s go to the phones real quick. I think we have Michael on the line. Hello, Michael.

You’re live on subpenny radio. How can I help you?

[Michael (Guest Caller)] (54:21 – 54:26)

Hey, Simon, it’s Michael. I actually have James on the line as well. If you don’t mind, we actually conference called in to take advantage of this great situation, sir.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (54:26 – 54:28)

Not a problem. So what do you guys got for me tonight?

[Michael (Guest Caller)] (54:29 – 54:30)

Go ahead, James.

[James (Guest Caller)] (54:31 – 54:49)

Well, I want to know what Rufus’ plan for the shorts are, if he can elaborate a little bit more. A lot of us have an idea just to see what Rufus can get out of it.

Second off, if that doesn’t prove by this phone conversation with what Rufus has planned, he’s not the smartest man on the planet. I don’t know what does.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (54:50 – 55:13)

Okay. Now, I’m not sure if he’s actually going to be able to go into it, you know, into the details, either from an insider perspective or equally important, in my opinion, is the, you know, you don’t, I never want to take out the wind out of someone’s sail. You know, if he has something really major planned, you know, do we want to steal his thunder?

[James (Guest Caller)] (55:13 – 55:14)

I have a question then.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (55:14 – 55:15)

Okay.

[James (Guest Caller)] (55:15 – 55:31)

Then he can answer this because a lot of us can’t. Okay. On the NASDAQ, say he was to open on the NASDAQ, would a grace period be given to the market makers that are short for them to cover or would they have to follow the naked short policy of the NASDAQ and cover within 24 hours?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (55:33 – 55:33)

Okay. Okay.

[James (Guest Caller)] (55:33 – 55:34)

That’s a question I can’t answer.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (55:35 – 55:37)

All right. Sounds fair enough.

[Michael (Guest Caller)] (55:38 – 55:54)

Question that I would have, Simon, please, this being Michael, if possible, I’d like Mr. Harris and Mr. Stanley to expand on the whole DTCC NOBO list fiasco and especially to discuss, again, the TD Ameritrade, that PR.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (55:55 – 55:55)

Okay.

[Michael (Guest Caller)] (55:55 – 56:06)

And possibly, if possible, expand on how short or how counterfeit his organization actually, you know, how many counterfeit shares there actually are in his organization.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (56:06 – 56:07)

Okay.

[James (Guest Caller)] (56:07 – 56:27)

So basically, Simon, with that, you know, the ADP came out and said that the NOBO list was three times, with a factor of three off.

And that’s where Michael’s getting this question. So to ask him how that can be, it would be a very good question. I think most of us know the answer, but hearing it out of Rufus’s mouth would be outstanding.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (56:28 – 56:45)

Right. Okay. So let me see if I got this right.

So, James, you want to know, if they open on the NASDAQ, what, if any, grace period will be given to the market makers that are short? Will they be given the typical NASDAQ 24 hours, you said?

[James (Guest Caller)] (56:46 – 57:10)

Yeah, from what I read, the NASDAQ, they have, you have to fill your DTC or your FTD orders within 24 hours on the NASDAQ, which basically kind of like a naked short. So to fill those FTD orders or a naked short, is he going to give them some type of a grace period for the naked shorters and the shorters, you know, just to describe what type of grace period he’s going to use to force those people to cover?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (57:10 – 57:11)

Okay.

[James (Guest Caller)] (57:12 – 57:16)

Because that’s what would incite our short squeeze by, by knowing that.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (57:16 – 57:24)

Okay. And Michael, you wanted to him, you know, you said two things. You wanted to know what the actual counterfeit number is, correct?

[Michael (Guest Caller)] (57:25 – 57:57)

Well, we don’t know what the counterfeit is, but he had originally, as James had alluded to, it was always the DTCC list, which Mr. Harris actually updated this evening to increase it seemingly by 25%, up to 37 million. The question is, how counterfeit is, you know, is our company at this point? How many counterfeit shares are against CVSU at this point?

And then at the same time, you know, are there any updates to the TD Ameritrade, the Scott Trade, and how counterfeit they were on the original NOBO list versus DTCC list?

[James (Guest Caller)] (57:58 – 58:04)

Well, and don’t forget about the factor of three though, Michael, also where they said the ADP said they were a factor of three off.

[Michael (Guest Caller)] (58:04 – 58:06)

Oh, exactly. You’re right, James. Exactly.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (58:07 – 58:07)

All right.

[James (Guest Caller)] (58:07 – 58:12)

And that’s why, I mean, I know they got the… Are we on the air right now, by the way, Simon, or no?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (58:12 – 58:12)

Yes, you are.

[James (Guest Caller)] (58:13 – 58:14)

Oh, I’m sorry. I didn’t know.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (58:15 – 58:43)

No, that’s fine. That’s fine. Yeah, I meant to communicate that to Michael when he had actually got through.

I told him, I said, yep, I’ll answer your call, meaning live. Anytime someone calls into the studio and I actually pick up, it’s immediate live. So we’ll go ahead and do that.

Let me see if I can actually get, because it might be just as good if I can actually conference Rufus in with you and Michael Lynn. Does that make sense?

[Michael (Guest Caller)] (58:44 – 58:48)

I would love the opportunity. I’ve never talked to a man and I would enjoy the opportunity.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (58:49 – 59:09)

Yeah, the thing is, I probably, I need the phone number. Someone was actually sending me earlier. Someone sent me the phone number that I could actually reach Rufus on.

But since my instant message actually croaked, I don’t have that number in front of me. So those listeners that actually had the number, if you could send that.

[James (Guest Caller)] (59:09 – 59:10)

Get you a pen. I’m going to give it to you right now.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (59:11 – 59:17)

All right. Hold. All right.

Well, actually, I don’t know if you want that broadcast because, again, you are live on the air.

[James (Guest Caller)] (59:20 – 59:29)

I’m having it IMT, Simon. I’m going to give it out. Actually, Rufus is giving it out over the air a thousand times and he gives his cell phone number for anybody to call.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (59:29 – 59:30)

Sure.

[James (Guest Caller)] (59:30 – 59:35)

I have people on the board. They’re listening to you right now. I’ll go ahead and have them IM it to you.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (59:35 – 59:44)

Okay, so we’ll do that. We’ll keep you and Michael on conference and then I’ll see if I can patch them in.

[Michael (Guest Caller)] (59:44 – 59:55)

All right. Simon, if and when you do speak to Mr. Harris, when you speak to Rufus, obviously let him know that we are long shareholders. We know we’re not Jimmy.

We’re not AliceStreet. We are long in his organization.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (59:55 – 1:00:12)

Right, right. No, I think he would know that. To me, I think it’s interesting how he thinks that Tim from PQL Research, or maybe not only him but also a lot of other listeners, think that Tim from PQL Research is the Tim from Our Street.

[Michael (Guest Caller)] (1:00:13 – 1:00:15)

Actually, Simon, can I ask you a question if you don’t mind?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:00:15 – 1:00:15)

Sure.

[Michael (Guest Caller)] (1:00:15 – 1:00:32)

We’re online right now. Why do you keep harping back to that? Because it’s very troubling.

You’re speaking to the CEO and CEO of our organization that we’ve been talking about for weeks now. There were countless questions that could have been asked, but you kept going back to the $54 into the post. Why was that?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:00:33 – 1:01:30)

Well, there was actually one of the listeners that was driving that point. He kept on saying, ask him about the $54. In my mind, I wasn’t sure because it seemed like one of the listeners, not Tim from PQL Research, but one of the listeners was saying, I guess the way they interpreted, and I’m at a disadvantage because number one, I don’t do the message board thing.

So, I don’t go out and read them myself, but I believe that the listener was actually thinking that when that post of $54 was mentioned, that $54 equated to the reset price. That’s what I was trying to figure out was, was that a reset price or what in context was the $54? Only until the very last roundabout did I actually have something that made sense to me in the sense of, okay, $54 was a response to Denny.

Is that right? Is that the name?

[Michael (Guest Caller)] (1:01:31 – 1:01:32)

Dimenchy, yeah.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:01:32 – 1:02:20)

Okay. Dimenchy. And it made sense the way that Rufus ultimately explained it finally, or maybe it took that long for me to get it through my head, but it made sense that had the merger taken place at the time of Rufus’s post on iHub, then the book value would have been $54 versus $7 and 21 cents.

So I, for me personally, it was, it was, it was, it was productive because it made sense. It made it, it makes sense to me. Uh, so the $54 that was posted out on iHub, if people want to take that out of context and say, Rufus was saying that that was going to be the reset price.

No, that’s not what he said, you know? So I think, I think it was helpful, at least from my perspective, it was. And that’s the only reason I kept on driving it back.

[James (Guest Caller)] (1:02:20 – 1:02:53)

You have to think about it from, from their perspective too, also, Simon. If they, if they were to come out and reset the stock price really, really high, because Rufus is about, and Ben said it best, they’re about building a business. If they set the stock price too high, and then it, you know, for some reason falters, you know, then, or, you know, if they set it too high, also they want to entice an institution or institutional buying and entice, entice institutional buying. They have to make it a, make it a, a good deal for them.

They want to buy undervalued stock.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:02:53 – 1:02:53)

Right.

[James (Guest Caller)] (1:02:53 – 1:03:24)

That’s what institutes do. So by setting the stock price low and having it build up, not only does it entice institutional buying, which we’re all looking forward to, I know I am, but we’re also building a, a strong stock price. Rather than, rather than just setting it high, letting institutes come in and buy for a high price, and then kind of slowly fall back down.

And it’s not a strong stock that way. You always build small and build high to make a, you know, a strong stock, then high and then drop a little bit.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:03:25 – 1:03:58)

Right, right. No, it makes sense. It makes sense.

And, you know, some of the listeners are, they, they don’t quite understand that value. I mean, they, they think, okay, well, if the current, with the bonds and all of the new information, since the, uh, the merger took place, the original book value was $7.21. Now we have all this other stuff. Why don’t we actually use that book value?

I guess it goes back to the point that, you know, that’s not the way it was originally structured. It was structured around the, the time that the merger was completed. That’s why you can’t introduce the new assets.

[James (Guest Caller)] (1:03:58 – 1:04:50)

The people that are concerned about the, the recent price of whether it’s 15 bucks or, or 54 bucks aren’t longs in the stock to begin with. And Rufus could, I don’t want to say he doesn’t have the patience for the people that don’t want to be a long-term investor. He doesn’t want shareholders.

He wants long-term investors. And there’s a big difference. People that are interested to gain a quick buck.

No, that’s not the people that Rufus is concerned about. So quite frankly, he’d probably want those people out of the stock at 15 bucks. I know I would. And then have these people holding it when it’s, you know, a hundred or 200 or wherever we go to, he wants that price to be up there because that also goes into the valuation of his company on their company’s net worth, which also allows them to get better loans to be able to hypothesize off of those loans and make more money for his company.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:04:51 – 1:04:56)

Right. Right. Okay.

So let me actually put you guys on hold real quick and see if I can get Rufus because he was trying to call in just a minute ago. All right.

[James (Guest Caller)] (1:04:56 – 1:04:57)

Thank you.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:04:57 – 1:05:20)

All right, here we go. Let’s see. And you guys will probably hear the phone ring in just a minute.

Hopefully he answers.

[Mr. Harris] (1:05:23 – 1:05:32)

You have reached Rufus Paul Harris, the CEO of Conversion Solutions. I am unavailable at this time. Please leave a message with your name.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:05:32 – 1:05:38)

All right. So I’m not sure why. Well, you guys still there, right?

[Michael (Guest Caller)] (1:05:38 – 1:05:42)

Simon, if he sees your number coming in as unavailable, he probably won’t answer the phone, I would imagine.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:05:42 – 1:05:51)

Yeah, that. Yeah. Because the system that I have actually comes up with on caller ID.

It comes up with a 0123 number. I don’t know why I’ve actually told him.

[Michael (Guest Caller)] (1:05:51 – 1:05:54)

Can you do a star 87 to show your number?

[James (Guest Caller)] (1:05:55 – 1:05:57)

Give me just a second, Simon.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:05:57 – 1:06:22)

Okay. Okay, good. All right.

So while James is working on that, let me go through some of these other questions that are currently on the table. And thank you, Portman. I appreciate the phone number.

Let’s see. We’ve got what is this? Text from Allstock says, I see SPR banded over this CSHD thing.

[James (Guest Caller)] (1:06:23 – 1:06:27)

According to, hey, Simon, according to Mr. Harris, he’s trying to call you back right now.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:06:27 – 1:06:35)

All right. Yeah, let me see about this. All right.

Hold on real quick. Okay. Let’s do this.

Hello, this Simon.

[Chet Troxell (Guest Caller)] (1:06:37 – 1:06:43)

Yeah. Hi. I have a question with Rufus Harris.

Is it possible you could relate it to him?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:06:43 – 1:06:44)

Sure. What do you have?

[Chet Troxell (Guest Caller)] (1:06:45 – 1:06:50)

Okay. My name is Chet Troxell, T-R-O-X-E-L-L.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:06:50 – 1:06:51)

Okay.

[Chet Troxell (Guest Caller)] (1:06:51 – 1:07:21)

I bought some stocks at Front Haul and I never got the stocks. So I was trying to get hold of him. We wrote him a letter, email, and I got only one response from him.

Since the merge was already been completed, how are we going to get the unissued stocks that we bought from Taunt Hall? That is my question.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:07:21 – 1:07:30)

Right, right. So I think you posed some good questions. And the thing is, you bought them directly from the company or you bought them through a broker?

[Chet Troxell (Guest Caller)] (1:07:30 – 1:07:32)

Directly from Front Haul.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:07:32 – 1:07:33)

Okay. All right.

[Chet Troxell (Guest Caller)] (1:07:34 – 1:08:30)

And then we bought it and we never got the stocks. When we talked with Mr. Harris at the time and they were at the beginning, we were referred by the owner of Front Haul, Mike Alexander, and said it will be taken care of. And he directed us to send him an email and show them the proof, all the things, how much shares that Front Haul owes us.

And then we sent it to them. We called him back. He said he got the email, but he is too busy to respond right now.

Then up to this moment, we’ve been trying to get hold of him. We never got any response. There are numerous phone calls that we have sent.

We sent email to Mike Alexander, but Mike Alexander is on a dead order. So there is no way we can talk to him about the stocks.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:08:30 – 1:08:42)

Well, what I’ll do is I’ll pose that question because if you’re one person in that situation, there might be others. So let me get your last name or your first name. How do you want me to identify you?

[Chet Troxell (Guest Caller)] (1:08:42 – 1:09:01)

My first name is Chet, spelled as C as in Charlie, H as in Holland, E as in England, T as in Tango. Last name is Troxel, T as in Tom, R-O-X-E-L-L. And I’m sure he would remember the last name very much.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:09:02 – 1:09:02)

All right. All right. Very good.

[Chet Troxell (Guest Caller)] (1:09:03 – 1:09:04)

Okay. Do you want my phone number?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:09:05 – 1:09:07)

Not necessarily. Yeah. What I’ll do is …

[Chet Troxell (Guest Caller)] (1:09:07 – 1:09:13)

If you could just plug it in and I’m listening right now on the radio.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:09:13 – 1:09:16)

Perfect. Perfect. So I will definitely ask your question.

All right.

[Chet Troxell (Guest Caller)] (1:09:16 – 1:09:18)

Okay. Thanks, Simon.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:09:18 – 1:09:18)

Thank you. Bye-bye.

[Chet Troxell (Guest Caller)] (1:09:19 – 1:09:20)

Okay. Bye-bye.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:09:20 – 1:09:50)

All right. Let me see. Okay.

So let me see if I can get Michael back on. I hopefully didn’t drop those guys. I may have actually dropped.

So Michael and James, it looks like when I picked up the other call, it actually disconnected you guys. So if you want to give me a call back or actually let me see if I can actually, um, let me see if I can reach Rufus right now. I’m trying to get Rufus on the phone and then we’ll see if we can conference in.

[Mr. Harris] (1:09:51 – 1:09:51)

Hello.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:09:51 – 1:09:52)

Hello, Rufus.

[Mr. Harris] (1:09:52 – 1:09:52)

Yeah.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:09:53 – 1:09:53)

This is Simon.

[Mr. Harris] (1:09:53 – 1:09:54)

I’m trying to call you.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:09:54 – 1:10:10)

Yeah. Sorry about that. Yeah, it’s, it’s, it’s, it’s gotten crazy. People are trying to get on the phone. They want to be conferenced in with you.

So there’s actually, uh, two long shareholders, James and Michael. Would you have any objections of, of me conferencing them into the call?

[Mr. Harris] (1:10:11 – 1:10:15)

Uh, yeah. Myself and Ben will continue with you and answering questions.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:10:16 – 1:10:16)

Say again. I’m sorry.

[Mr. Harris] (1:10:17 – 1:10:24)

Ben and myself won’t be completely with you to do it directly with you to answer questions from the shareholders.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:10:24 – 1:10:30)

Okay. All right. All right.

So no one conferences in. All right. Very good.

That’s fine.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:10:31 – 1:10:32)

Sure.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:10:32 – 1:10:36)

No, no, no, that’s fine. That’s fine. Um, all right.

Let me see if I can.

[Mr. Harris] (1:10:36 – 1:10:37)

Hold on a second.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:10:37 – 1:10:59)

Sure. All right. While Rufus has me on hold, let’s go back over this way and see if I’ve got everybody’s questions here.

You guys just let me know when you’re on the air. I mean, when you’re there. So we’ve got a question with regards to, uh, does, does Rufus like lobster?

I’m sure. Well, I don’t know. I don’t know if he does or doesn’t.

[Mr. Harris] (1:10:59 – 1:11:01)

Okay. All right. Hey, how you doing?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:11:01 – 1:11:03)

Okay. All right. You guys are back.

[Mr. Harris] (1:11:04 – 1:11:04)

Yeah, we’re back.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:11:04 – 1:11:51)

All right. Good deal. So, um, let me, let me start out with the last, last caller that called in, um, a young lady had actually said that she has actually, she originally bought shares from the company directly.

And, uh, first name was Chet, C H E T Truxell. She said that you would recognize the last name. Apparently she’s been in trying to reach, uh, you or someone in terms of how to get those shares that were originally purchased.

Are there, what is the correct protocol for people in Chet’s situation to reach you and to get the, the shares that they may not have received, but have already paid for that were purchased directly through the company?

[Mr. Harris] (1:11:52 – 1:12:24)

Let me say this to all the shareholders. We, we, we put extensions at the bottom of the following each ordeal. We have such a huge list of names right now that we’re going to call back.

Everyone will receive our call. By the time we do return your call, the question and what you referenced may have already been answered in 8Ks or 10K or whatever, but we will call everyone back. That’s our shareholders that have Front Haul.

They cannot get them up. Changed over. Like the lady asked work with the transfer agent on it.

[Mr. Stanley] (1:12:25 – 1:12:31)

Contact saber desk with the information that we found on our list or our records.

[Mr. Harris] (1:12:31 – 1:12:32)

Right.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:12:33 – 1:12:43)

So, so, so for people in the situation like Chet, they should actually contact the transfer agent and work with the transfer agent and getting those shares.

[Mr. Harris] (1:12:44 – 1:14:34)

Well, they need to send a copy of it into our corporation so we can start working on it. And the transfer agent, here’s the beauty of a, a public corporation. We’re the issue of shareholders.

We’re the ones that issue the shares, not the market makers and not the market. If they do not come from us and they’re not on the books of the company, then it’s not a real share. If your name that gets a proxy and we’ve tested this, we tested it with a proxy in the past just to see the devastation of how bad the naked short selling can be on a penny stock over the counter bulletin board.

And it is shocking. It is the scariest thing as a CEO you will ever experience to get a NOBO list and get true documents and OBOs and all the true numbers and get a figure of 600 million when, when the power management tells you a figure of a hundred million, it is an unbelievable thing that is being done to the shareholders. It won’t happen here.

Okay. If your name’s not on the book of the company, or if you’re holding them in OBO a street name, that’s fine. Guess what?

We had the DTC report. We are the issuer. You are holding stock in our company on a reset.

And the things that we are fixing to do, we will work with every single shareholder that does not have a valid share or that cannot get the broker to change over the prices or whatever it happens. We will help you all. The numbers will be massive.

So please take time and be patient with us moving forward.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:14:35 – 1:14:51)

Okay. And just thinking, you know, listening to what you, what you said that, that sounds like a, like a huge undertask, you know, cause if there’s, if there’s a lot of people that actually own shares, they’re, they bought the air shares. The stock is reset.

[Mr. Harris] (1:14:53 – 1:14:54)

Let me give you an example.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:14:54 – 1:14:55)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (1:14:55 – 1:15:27)

I have a friend that I’ve known for quite a while, for probably four years. I know how many shares he holds in the company. He showed me his trade account.

But guess what? Of the company that I’m the CEO of, that a friend of mine is holding, his name’s not on the books of the company. And many, many others.

What do we say to that? What do I look at my friend and say? I do.

I don’t know. I don’t know what to tell you.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:15:27 – 1:15:27)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (1:15:27 – 1:15:53)

Bring it, call you, call for your certificate and then we’ll exchange it. And that way I know you get on the books of the company. What did all the share?

What did most of the brokers tell the shareholders? You don’t need your certificate. Don’t listen to that idiot.

Okay. Well, the only reason we wanted everyone to get their certificate is so we can get a track record of who’s there. So we know that everybody gets the share.

We know that everyone gets a part of this.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:15:54 – 1:15:56)

That makes sense. And I’m thinking to myself.

[Mr. Harris] (1:15:56 – 1:16:05)

I heard that you had a question in the break while we couldn’t, in the problem that we couldn’t, while we couldn’t get on to you on a telephone call.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:16:05 – 1:16:05)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (1:16:06 – 1:16:07)

Of the ADP.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:16:08 – 1:16:08)

Say that again?

[Mr. Harris] (1:16:08 – 1:16:10)

Questioning the ADP number, correct?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:16:10 – 1:16:11)

Yeah.

[Mr. Harris] (1:16:11 – 1:16:25)

Can you find out who asked that question? Are they willing to give their name? Can you see if that’s possible?

How do you work? A lot of times I hear you reading stuff. Do you have like a website or something that they go into?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:16:25 – 1:16:31)

No, actually it’s like email. It’s called instant messenger. So basically.

[Mr. Harris] (1:16:31 – 1:16:31)

IM. Okay.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:16:32 – 1:16:32)

Yeah.

[Mr. Harris] (1:16:32 – 1:16:34)

Yeah. I’m aware of what instant messenger is.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:16:34 – 1:16:52)

All right. So basically there’s two ways that people can communicate with me and with the show real time. They can either call the studio line like we’re on right now, you and I, or they can actually send in instant messages.

And that’s what I usually read off the air because most people don’t want.

[Mr. Harris] (1:16:52 – 1:16:55)

Do you save the instant message from the person that asked the question?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:16:55 – 1:16:58)

Yes. Every message that’s sent in to me is.

[Mr. Harris] (1:16:58 – 1:17:04)

Can you instant message that individual back and see if they’re willing to give their name or if they don’t answer your instant message?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:17:05 – 1:17:07)

Um, well, see, the thing is.

[Mr. Harris] (1:17:07 – 1:17:19)

Well, I’m curious. Okay. If someone’s going to ask the question, ask me something that we have that they would say there’s a possibility.

It’s right. They’re right. How do you know?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:17:20 – 1:17:21)

There, there isn’t no way.

[Mr. Harris] (1:17:21 – 1:17:24)

We’re the only one that’s supposed to get the ADP report.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:17:24 – 1:17:25)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (1:17:25 – 1:17:42)

How do you know? You’re asking me a question and making an accusation that the ADP numbers wrong. Where’d you get your information?

I’m very curious. That is that part? If it’s possibly real, let’s talk.

Let’s find out who this person is.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:17:42 – 1:17:42)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (1:17:42 – 1:17:43)

If they’re willing to do that.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:17:43 – 1:17:50)

Right. Yeah. And I, and I, and I will confess something Rufus, hang on, hang on, because right now I’m, I’m a little confused. And the reason I …

[Mr. Harris] (1:17:50 – 1:18:14)

We have been told by ADP and ADP has been telling people that it’s calling her office that the 106 number is incorrect. We have not received the CD from ADP verify. It was supposed to be FedEx to us.

And we’re, we’re going to receive it at her office, but we have not received it. Ben and I have not received it as of this phone conversation.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:18:15 – 1:18:15)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (1:18:15 – 1:18:29)

So we will go check our mail again tomorrow and see if it’s there on that. We’ve already ordered another one. Okay.

So the combination of what’s coming is part of the chess moves that Ben was referring to a while ago.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:18:29 – 1:18:30)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (1:18:30 – 1:20:06)

And the next move is checkmate. That’s a very, very, very next move. The next thing you see from the company will be the first time it’s ever been done in a public company.

And it will correct this problem. The market has one opportunity between now and the time that air button is pushed to correct their own problem and force us to choose option. “A”, if the price is larger than $15 per share, we don’t have to change over everything up.

That’s the only way they’re going to protect thereself. Go for $15 guys. Do you want to day trade it and flip it and fake shares?

Go for the gusto. That’s your opportunity. That’s your one opportunity.

Or if we don’t like it at that time, if we don’t like where it is, we can choose option “B”. We have the fund set up and everything set aside and blocked and escrow for that option. The company is willing to put out $900 million at $15 a share.

We’ve discussed it. We’ve approved it. We set it to the side at the board resolution on it.

That’s option two, right? Or option three. We can give you the cash differential in the price and go from there.

That’s the only choice you have that your brokers have and the people trading air have at this time. Nothing else. It’s in the 8K filing.

We can’t dance it. We can’t change it. And we’re not going to go back and try to rewrite the merger.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:20:07 – 1:20:09)

No, understood. Understood. And that’s one of the things.

[Mr. Harris] (1:20:09 – 1:20:46)

That’s why when this merger was done and it was put and designed and filed, it was over. Now, we put other things into place to track it. So you can watch the shares dance between the company.

That’s why we’re posting the DTC report and no votes from ADP. It fascinates me how ADP, from my understanding, what I’ve been told. I haven’t researched it.

Maybe someone can check on it. It’s supposed to be a division of the Depository Trust Corporation. Now, how does a division of one situation have different numbers than a parent company?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:20:48 – 1:20:49)

That’s a good question.

[Mr. Stanley] (1:20:49 – 1:21:15)

We’ve filed press releases in the individuals that even carry in the shorts. We’re looking to work with them and see what we all can work out together. We’re not trying to come out here on this stronghold and think we’re willing to work with people.

We put it in there. I asked them to call me and contact me so that we can resolve this problem.

[Mr. Harris] (1:21:15 – 1:21:24)

All right, Ben, I disagree with you.

You’ve already put it in the PR. And how many calls did you get? Be honest, right here in front of everybody.

How many calls did you get from people trying to work out a deal with you?

[Mr. Stanley] (1:21:25 – 1:21:26)

I haven’t got any.

[Mr. Harris] (1:21:26 – 1:21:35)

All right.

Kiss my butt, people. You had your chance. Ben was nice and said, call me and we’ll work out your problems.

Kiss my butt.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:21:35 – 1:21:59)

All right. Let me see if I can paraphrase because I can hear you, but I think maybe some of the listeners are having a hard time. The phone sometimes gets a little muffled.

But, basically, Ben had put out the PR saying, if you want to work with us, contact Ben. As of that PR being issued, none of the market makers, nobody that’s actually shorted this stock has actually reached out and contacted Ben. Is that correct?

[Mr. Stanley] (1:22:01 – 1:22:01)

Correct.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:22:02 – 1:22:34)

Okay. All right.

Now, one of the questions that James was asking earlier is, whenever the stock is reset, and if, hypothetically speaking, if the stock opens up on the NASDAQ, no guarantee that it will, but if it were to do that, would CSHD then extend some kind of grace period to allow those that have actually shorted the stock to then cover? Or are you going to then ask and expect…

[Mr. Stanley] (1:22:34 – 1:22:40)

They need to contact me immediately. They need to contact me immediately.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:22:40 – 1:22:42)

Right. You’re saying that prior to the reset.

[Mr. Harris] (1:22:42 – 1:22:43)

What, tonight?

[Mr. Stanley] (1:22:46 – 1:22:54)

I would say within the next 24 to 48 hours, they need to contact me immediately.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:22:54 – 1:22:59)

Right. Now, let’s say they don’t contact you. Then what’s the next course of action?

[Mr. Stanley] (1:23:01 – 1:23:08)

Then our attorneys and our legal are going to handle it, and we have a picture at that point.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:23:09 – 1:23:28)

All right. So, let’s say nobody’s contacted you, Ben, and the stock is reset, regardless of what market it opens on. What I’m hearing you say is that Conversion Solutions will not extend any latitude or grace period to allow those people who have shorted to now cover after the reset, correct?

[Mr. Harris] (1:23:29 – 1:23:45)

Now, dude, listen. We’re actually going to hit them so hard after we reset and hit the market with so much stuff that we’re going to sign contracts on and that we’re working on for months down the road. We’re going to hit them so hard.

They’re not going to have an opportunity. We’re not going to have time to consider.

[Mr. Stanley] (1:23:45 – 1:24:17)

I mean, we have so many other projects that’s online right now that’s huge.

And some of the contracts have already been signed prior. I mean, it’s time for us to move forward with our business, and that’s what we’re looking to move forward with is our business. I mean, they just caught up in the wind of it right now.

I’m trying to deal with it. I’m giving them a chance to deal with it. Deal with it now, or I can’t help you.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:24:18 – 1:24:34)

Right. Okay. All right.

So, let me see if I can get through some of these messages here. Um, all right. So, it says someone emailed you an ADP email.

Let me see, because I’ve got tons of messages here, guys. So, it’s going to take me a little bit of time to find the one that they actually sent that to me.

[Mr. Harris] (1:24:35 – 1:24:36)

Hey, that’s what I said. Take your time, bud.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:24:36 – 1:25:32)

Right. All right. So, it says here, okay, maybe this is it.

I think this is it. Okay. It says, it says, and I’m just going to read the text as I see it.

It says, hello, George. Don’t know who George is. Um, it says, I’m replying to your inquiry about the NOBO list.

That was recently generated for Conversions Holding. The NOBO list information supplied to Conversion Solutions was inadequately sent in triplicate, thereby overstating the number of shareholders and shares. Conversion Solutions Inc has been contacted and corrected.

And, uh, NOBO information has been supplied. If you have any concerns about your investment and CSHD, please contact the broker or bank where you have your account. We apologize for the inconvenience or confusion this may have caused.

Best regards, ADP investor communication services. And they have the 1-800 number.

[Mr. Harris] (1:25:32 – 1:25:34)

Okay. Now, and you’re reading that from where?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:25:35 – 1:25:37)

Uh, this is actually an instant message.

[Mr. Harris] (1:25:37 – 1:25:39)

Someone cut and pasted an email message from who?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:25:40 – 1:25:44)

Uh, the, the person’s name is new market.

[Mr. Harris] (1:25:45 – 1:25:46)

New market.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:25:46 – 1:25:46)

Right.

[Mr. Stanley] (1:25:47 – 1:25:48)

New market.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:25:48 – 1:25:50)

Right. That’s just an alias.

[Mr. Stanley] (1:25:51 – 1:26:01)

Let me say that. There’s so much inconsistency with, with, with, with the company. We’ve been through it before people.

We’ve been through it before.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:26:02 – 1:26:02)

Okay.

[Mr. Stanley] (1:26:03 – 1:26:04)

Just understand that.

[Mr. Harris] (1:26:04 – 1:26:20)

Yeah. It is not our first dog and pony show.

How do you think we’ve been a step ahead of them? The only reason we haven’t squished them is because Ben feels that if we squish them, they’re going to come and murder our families or something. So he wants to be nice to them.

At this point, I feel you can’t touch it.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:26:21 – 1:26:21)

All right.

[Mr. Harris] (1:26:21 – 1:26:24)

It’s protected by a higher power than you.

So move right on, my friend.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:26:24 – 1:26:50)

Okay. So just, just, just so that we have the same takeaway from this email that was supposedly from the, um, ADP investor communication services. This is not, this is fabrication.

It’s not fact in terms of you receiving a list that was sent in triplicate and the, that thereby, um, tripling the numbers of, uh, outstanding shares and shareholders.

[Mr. Harris] (1:26:50 – 1:28:23)

Sabra Dabbs has spoken with someone at ADP on multiple occasions and have correspondence back and forth. We received our first report from ADP via a CD. In that CD had ADP on it and all the information required to pull it down.

The first one that was 106 that is on our website. The conversation on the second one was 26 million. Not only does it not correlate with the DTC report that we pull within 30 minutes.

Anytime we ask for the DTC report, they give it to us in about 30 minutes to two hours. It did not correspond with the 31 million that we had at the same time they were saying, Oh, the number is 26. So until we have a CD in our hand and I have it in front of me and it’s something that I can put in the safety deposit box.

So when the question is asked one day, okay, now how did it come in triplicate? You know, when they’re doing the proxy and so on and so on, I’ll let someone else answer that question. It’s not for me to do.

Am I concerned about it? No, I’m not. We’re not concerned about any of it.

We have put this, we started it two and a half years ago. We put it together and we have never stopped in the direction we’ve headed. Straight to NASDAQ.

It’s taken two years, but guess what? We’re here. I have a lot of people out there that would like to be where we are right now in two years.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:28:24 – 1:28:46)

Right. Now earlier you were asking in terms of who had actually sent that information to me. They came back and said that, they said, tell them that I am the person that interviewed Mr. Harris multiple times and I am not a basher. This is just one email, one email of the people we’re seeing.

[Mr. Harris] (1:28:46 – 1:29:25)

Well, here’s my problem with that, okay? We’re talking about it, but it’s insider information. We’re discussing insider information on your talk radio show from somebody that sent it to you.

Now, how did someone get insider information to post it to you? Did they infiltrate my email? I don’t know.

Someone asked that question right now. It’s reality. This is real.

This is live, my friend. You just asked me a question on insider information and that person knew it. How?

And who are they? I would like to know. If they are one of my people and I find out, you are fired.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:29:31 – 1:29:31)

All right.

[Mr. Harris] (1:29:31 – 1:29:37)

If it’s a transfer agent and I find out you’re not only going to be fired, you’re going to be prosecuted.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:29:39 – 1:29:40)

All right, they said-

[Mr. Harris] (1:29:40 – 1:29:41)

Be careful, people, with us. We’re done.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:29:41 – 1:29:42)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (1:29:42 – 1:29:54)

We’re past the playing stage. All of this crap, NM1, and all this stuff, this fraud that’s going on, trust me, your grandkids are going to sit back and look at each other and say, that was my grandkid that did that shit.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:29:57 – 1:30:06)

Sure, sure. And this individual says that they are the 18-year-old that actually interviewed you. This is an email from the ADP.

[Mr. Harris] (1:30:06 – 1:30:08)

He’s the one that probed me on Palo Alto.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:30:09 – 1:30:09)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (1:30:10 – 1:30:18)

That’s real smart, kid. You’re starting life off in a good direction. How you got the information, I don’t know because I didn’t give it to you.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:30:18 – 1:30:30)

Sure. Let’s see. It says, ask Mr. Harris if CSHD would be interested in partnering with shareholders from Hot Stock Market to establish a charitable trust.

[Mr. Harris] (1:30:32 – 1:31:57)

Yes, I have already been asked that question. I have already given approval to that. There was a group of long shareholders that saw that this NM1, it just- It infuriated them, and I don’t blame them.

It’s about time shareholders done something about this. Okay, you’re the one with the power. They can’t knock 30 shareholders.

They’re not going to be able to bash each individual shareholder. They may threaten your life if they find out who you are. So be very careful about putting your names up because Ben and myself are not new to our life being threatened when dealing with these guys.

They’ve called me. I moved three times in my last company that we deal with because they would call me and tell me the class that my daughter is in, okay? And my family’s life was a living hell for the last company when I was dealing with these crooks.

Guess what, fellas? We’re back. We are back.

We told you so. And this time, it’s your family. I hate it for you.

I’ve asked the shareholders to say a prayer for the shorties, man. Say a prayer for these guys doing this fraud because what’s coming, we don’t even like that it has to happen to someone. But I promise you guys, you better start looking up your shoulders and start zapping your and erasing your drive.

Go ahead.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:31:57 – 1:31:58)

All right.

[Mr. Stanley] (1:31:58 – 1:32:05)

I was going to say, I do have solutions for you, but I need to talk to you. That’s it.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:32:05 – 1:32:06)

But nobody’s contacted you back yet.

[Mr. Stanley] (1:32:07 – 1:32:08)

They haven’t contacted me.

[Mr. Harris] (1:32:09 – 1:32:23)

Come on. T.D. Ameritrade sent us a letter saying our system does not allow us to short stock. You know, here’s the shocking part about that. Remember that friend of mine? Guess where he held his shares?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:32:24 – 1:32:25)

Ameritrade.

[Mr. Harris] (1:32:27 – 1:32:35)

I think I’m going to put a press release out if I didn’t have proof certain that I knew somebody that held a share with that company. Wasn’t no money in any of them.

[Mr. Stanley] (1:32:35 – 1:32:37)

How many of them contacted us?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:32:38 – 1:32:39)

Sure. Sure.

[Mr. Harris] (1:32:39 – 1:32:40)

I don’t know.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:32:40 – 1:32:41)

All right.

[Mr. Harris] (1:32:41 – 1:32:47)

I mean, we’re not we’re not risky and we’re not idiots.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:32:47 – 1:32:57)

Okay. So S.J. wants to know, can we expect a forward split? And how would that attract or how that affect the shorts covering?

[Mr. Harris] (1:32:58 – 1:34:06)

You know, that’s a rumor. We’ve tried it last time. That’s how most of the frauds push you.

And this is an intricate network, people. They have attorneys that can write them opinion letter quicker than you can call one and get them documents to review. We’ve seen it.

I’ve seen attorney opinion letters produced by these guys in a matter of hours. It’s a very, very it’s very complicated. And listen, when it comes down, I’m just going to go back to what I stated earlier.

Each and every shareholder. I promise you document everything. If you’re one of the ones that come up and find yourself in a bad situation, come to us.

We will work with you. All right. If we have to issue your shares and our escrow fund for you and support you in federal court or all the way to Congress, we will see that you get at least what we promised, the $15.

Even if we have to pay it. But I promise you, if we’re paying on behalf of somebody else, we will get it back.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:34:07 – 1:34:19)

All right. And when you say shareholders, are you are you qualifying that by saying people who have the physical certificates? Or does that also include people who have their certificates in street name?

[Mr. Harris] (1:34:20 – 1:35:29)

Document it. Come back with something. A lot of people told me a lot of the calls that come in initially, which we knew it, we’ve been through it.

When you do a third recall and you tell everybody, call your broker, get your certificate, get it hard copy and make the exchange when we tell you to. A lot of people did not do that. The reason for that is we can check your name off.

Everyone that did not do that. I’m not going to say you’re not in the DTC system, but trust me, within the next two to three days, your mind will be set at ease as to who is in and who is out at that time. Everyone that is out contact us and we will work with you to force your brokerage firm as the issuer of our stock.

Don’t forget that it’s our stock. It’s held on the books of this company that I’m CEO of and he’s COO of. So if it’s not on our books, you don’t hold a real share.

We will help you.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:35:29 – 1:35:38)

Okay. All right. Another question is what does quote market conditions end quote have to do with a 10k release?

[Mr. Harris] (1:35:38 – 1:35:41)

What does market conditions have to do with a 10k release?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:35:42 – 1:35:42)

Yes.

[Mr. Harris] (1:35:43 – 1:37:55)

You know, that’s a relatively good question. That really is. That’s pretty crafty too.

I like the way you did that. Well, let’s see. How is it better for the shareholders?

You got to do everything for the betterment of the shareholders. If you go out and reset when you know 20% of them is going to hurt and not have anything. Or is it better for the shareholders?

If you clarify and it is a very swift, decisive, easily understandable manner that when we file it, your name is either on the list or it is not. So our decision was made that it would be a better situation for the shareholders that when we get a new ADP list, which I suspect we will get this one, and compare the shareholders to the books of the corporation. So we pulled the list.

That list was pulled as of the 29th. The reason for that, the strategic reason for the 29th is that is the very day that all the shorts and FTDs have been on the show list to the extent of the law. As of the 29th, right now in your share at your broker, there is not a question whether he has a real one or a fake one right now in his mind.

He can’t go to Knight or one of the market makers that sold it to him and say, hey, you need to get me my certificate. That is why a lot of you got 20 days. You know how easy it is?

You know what a transaction does? You overnight it to him in a FedEx, put a self-addressed envelope in it, and you just eliminate anything from him, but printing your cert, stamping it, putting it back in there and sending it to you. He still has a lot of work to do, but you’ve sped that process up.

We’ve seen it done in two days. Today, it was actually done in less than a day. They were courier and the people had their shares.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:37:56 – 1:38:03)

Okay, so you’re actually recommending if people are going to request their certs out of street name into their own name?

[Mr. Harris] (1:38:03 – 1:38:12)

No, I post everyone in PRs. I put it in there over and over again. I highly recommend for you to get hard copy cert.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:38:13 – 1:38:13)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (1:38:13 – 1:38:39)

Okay, there’s been strategic times in this transaction that is the key to the success of it. You have certain dates.

That’s why we started the show list on the day we did it. Because it fell at the very one day before the 10K. If you wait, what are they going to do?

That’s why we had to run at the end of the week. I mean, come on, we put the PR out on the 5B in the morning and it didn’t even move to 130 that afternoon.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:38:40 – 1:38:41)

Right, exactly. Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (1:38:42 – 1:39:12)

If you don’t work with them where they make a lot of money, or you sign consulting agreements, or you let them, that’s why I call it feeding the beast. These guys go through money like you’ve never seen.

They just produce it. And we’re not going to feed the beast. We’re not going to be a part of the beast.

We don’t care what Wall Street does. It’s immoral. A lot of people lose money on the deal.

Nope, we’re not part of it. You bought the share, you own it. We’re going to see you get your money.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:39:12 – 1:39:28)

Okay. Now, some folks are actually concerned. They’re thinking that they only have to request their certs if they have a margin account.

Do they have to request their certs, or is your advice specific to margin accounts, cash accounts?

[Mr. Harris] (1:39:28 – 1:39:29)

It’s too late, everyone.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:39:29 – 1:39:29)

Say again?

[Mr. Harris] (1:39:29 – 1:39:59)

It’s too late. The 29th was it. The 29th was a drop-dead date for any FTD or legal shorts to have cleared.

As of the 29th, it’s over. It’s over. By the law, they cannot short the company anymore.

Is it happening? Yeah, I’ll put money on it. They were robbing you then.

Why are they going to stop robbing you now? No one’s doing anything about it. The FTC isn’t doing anything about it.

How many companies have died because of these reams?

[Mr. Stanley] (1:40:01 – 1:40:13)

It’s come on. We’re on another exchange board right now because they’re trying to sustain themselves and trade on something that we didn’t even create.

[Mr. Harris] (1:40:14 – 1:41:05)

They’re trading on that. In another country, who’s getting the money from it? Who listed it?

Who posted the shares there to fail? Get real. This is scary stuff, people.

No wonder. Look, this is how scary it ought to be, and this is how the market knows it, but they don’t tell you. They do.

They throw little disclaimers in there. That’s why I tell ya, if anybody ever gives you a disclaimer on something you sign, don’t sign the damn thing, okay, because they’re not telling you the truth. They don’t care about you.

They’re not protecting your investment. If they say, look, if you buy this and lose it, a broker’s job is to make sure you’re in a sound investment. Monitor it.

Track it for you. Tell you it’s good. Tell you it’s bad.

Hey, man, as a broker, in my opinion, you ought to fail. I kind of think this thing is going down.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:41:06 – 1:41:08)

But we all know they don’t do that.

[Mr. Harris] (1:41:08 – 1:42:16)

I recommended my clients to buy … 90% of How many online traders are people out here trading this by themselves? Look at the online accounts, StockTrade, Ameritrade.

They have very little contact to a real person. Their business is from doing $9 transactions or whatever the fee is, and you’re out there in la-la land by yourself, and everybody likes that personal part of it. Well, it’s dangerous out here.

It is very dangerous out here. A lot of it is fake. I’ve never seen some stuff out here.

They have no more. And it’s deep. The river runs way deep.

Last time, in the last company it runs, the FBI agent went to jail for insider trading in New York. Brokerage firms lost their license. The CPA from the company’s license was pulled.

We are the ones that had that and pushed all those buttons for those activities to happen. It’s a scary world out here.

[Mr. Stanley] (1:42:18 – 1:42:36)

A lot of people took that as a negative input on us, and they used that as a negative input on us, and we actually were successful in what we’ve done and what we accomplished.

So, you know, I mean, it is a crooked world out here.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:42:37 – 1:42:40)

So now there’s a little – Ben: People use whatever information they want.

[Mr. Harris] (1:42:41 – 1:42:46)

Oh, yeah, and look, the SEC’s allowing it.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:42:47 – 1:42:47)

Right. So now we’ve got a little-

[Mr. Harris] (1:42:47 – 1:43:29)

There was a website I went to that had a congressional thing for one of the congressmen who was speaking, the head of the banking commission, along with the SEC, and that was something to see. He gave an example of someone he’d come to know personally that had only one million shares in his company. Only one million shares.

He bought one million because of the crazy trading in his stock. He bought those one million shares, got them in hard copies with their certificate form from the transfer agent, and put them in a drawer. And then the stock, I think it was 30-something million shares the next day.

What are they trading?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:43:30 – 1:43:32)

As you said, they’re probably trading air shares. Now, one thing I did want to get back-

[Mr. Harris] (1:43:32 – 1:43:40)

Okay, you’re trading from broker to broker around the DTC system. There’s a neat little thing out there that explains it.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:43:40 – 1:43:41)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (1:43:41 – 1:44:42)

Go to HMS, I’m telling you. HSM, I’m telling you, those people will give you all the details. If you ask a question of them saying, show me a video, or I want to know something about naked short selling, these people will throw it to you.

They’re really good people out there. We’ve tested them, and they’re all about due diligence, and that should be the purpose of a board. Those boards should only do diligence.

The moderators of those boards should only allow valid due diligence. I got kicked off an iHub. Am I mad about it?

Heck no. I think it’s the funniest thing in the world. They put me in jail.

I went to iHub jail because I called R Street a liar. But R Street can go out there and say I’m a fraud. This is a scam.

And I go out there and say, you know, they’re doing them a liar. And they put me in iHub jail. Now wait, there’s a motive there somewhere.

There’s a motive. Why? And people get sucked into this because the internet is so interesting.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:44:43 – 1:44:43)

Sure.

[Mr. Harris] (1:44:43 – 1:45:26)

You can sit down and watch this stuff real time. That’s what gives Ben and myself the idea of a real-time company, a perpetual company where every contract is required inside the laws of the company and the SOP, Standard Operating Procedures, that it is immediately put in PDF form and posted on our website and filed with the SEC.

We want you to see everything that I see. That way you know exactly what happens. And to be honest with you, it also protects you.

That if a CFO down the road or somebody embezzles some of this big-time money that we have coming in on the financing, you get to sit right in front of you so you know it wasn’t me.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:45:27 – 1:46:07)

Right, right. Let me ask you a couple of questions right now. Because there’s a little bit of confusion.

Some listeners heard you say the 29th was the last day. It’s too late. It’s done.

And I think some of the listeners may have gotten that confused with the purchase of the stock. So if someone bought CSHD today for the very first time on a pullback and now as a first time shareholder, they want to actually request their certificates, what are the steps that they need to take so they can get their names?

[Mr. Harris] (1:46:07 – 1:47:52)

Just by requesting your certificate, if they tell you it takes 20, 6 weeks, 4 weeks, they have it in their good intention. Not your best interest. But they do have it because what they’ll do and the brokers will do in the account is they’ll lock your certificate.

They’ll say, okay, we’ve requested your certificate so your shares aren’t free trading no more. So the certificate’s in wait. Right now, physically, your shares are in hard copy 30.

That’s what they’re going to take. Well, you know what? They can have it in 3 to 4 days.

All right, give them a week. If they don’t, you better start questioning whether or not you have real ones. If you’re concerned, TA’s going to kill me.

I’m sorry about this, darling. I love you, man. I really do.

You’re great. Call the transfer agent and ask them, are your shares on the list? That’s what a transfer agent is.

If your broker tricked you into signing a document, to signing your shares over to hold them in street name, call your broker. Tell them you do not want your shares held in street name. You want them in your name where the company can see that you own it so you can receive proxy material.

If they tell you otherwise, they’re voting for you. Is the broker going to trick you? Yeah, but the large firms that are required for the shorting is going to do it when they sign you up.

That’s how they orchestrate the big game. Oh, okay, you know, here, here, we recommend you sign this document and put them in street name so it makes it easier and electronically for us. A lot of people don’t know.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:47:53 – 1:47:53)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (1:47:53 – 1:48:05)

My poor mom went through this recently. You’ve got to watch these people.

Their businesses design it. It’s in their training. It’s how they teach.

And it’s not for your best interest.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:48:06 – 1:48:32)

Right. So basically, for what people need to do, whether they buy them today, tomorrow, or Wednesday, as soon as they purchase them, if they know they want to hold the shares long term, midterm, they need to, as soon as they have their order filled, pick up the phone, call their broker, say, I want these particular shares in my name, and then make sure that the transfer agent has their name on record.

[Mr. Harris] (1:48:33 – 1:48:40)

That is right. Make sure the shares are held in your name, not street name, because street names will take your organization.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:48:41 – 1:48:41)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (1:48:42 – 1:49:06)

Also, it allows them, if I’m not mistaken, in a lot of the wording in some of these brokers, when they put them in street name, it allows them to pool them. And what that pool means is they can short against that pool. Because, yeah, technically, we really have the shares.

So if our client ever does sell them, we can sell you a real share. But they don’t stop shorting. They just keep on and on and on and on.

[Mr. Stanley] (1:49:06 – 1:49:28)

And I think that’s why a lot of them right now is freezing the count of shares that they receive in. It’s people that can receive their shares in to the broker, but they don’t allow them to purchase shares, because they want it to hold for that week, so that they can have them on their books and their records.

[Mr. Harris] (1:49:29 – 1:49:42)

Has anybody actually noticed the information that’s come out in the past few days?

TD Ameritrade changes a lot of senior management. I don’t think that would have anything to do with us, would it? Not at all.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:49:43 – 1:50:15)

Right. Another question is, and I’m basically paraphrasing this question, by requesting, by a trader or an investor requesting their certificates out of street name into their own name, isn’t that a double edged sword? Meaning that it takes those certificates out of circulation, locking them up so that people cannot actually sell them as soon as the stock prices reset.

Is that part of that?

[Mr. Harris] (1:50:15 – 1:50:57)

That’s another one of them trick questions and good questions. I said that an intelligent person is on the other end of it and they’re twisting it. In other words, they’re saying, oh, aren’t you, Mr. Harris, by doing that, by requesting that of your shareholders, aren’t you manipulating the market by having everybody put their shares in a lockup?

No, your broker does that. I don’t do that. We have a TA and that’s his job to see that you get your cert.

Are you going to backlog the TA for 30 million certs? I’m pretty sure he wouldn’t mind to hire the staff and get the money that he gets paid to do it, to change him over. But that’s not the point.

Have them in your name, if they’re in your name electronically. They don’t have to be in street name, okay, for them to be free trading.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:50:58 – 1:51:30)

Okay. Now, one thing that I have actually spoken with, now this isn’t a question, this is just feedback that I’ve gained with regards to different brokers, for instance, Scottrade and a few others. Because they are discount brokers, they’re not full service brokers like Merrill Lynch, Goldman, they do not allow you as an account holder to take certificates out of street name into your own name electronically.

They don’t do that.

[Mr. Harris] (1:51:31 – 1:51:32)

Why do you use them?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:51:33 – 1:51:40)

Well, a lot of people will actually use them because of the discounted fees. Someone might not want to pay $40.

[Mr. Harris] (1:51:42 – 1:51:49)

Yeah, we talked about this earlier. I made a code, because of the prices and so on and so on in the trading, and they can do it real time online.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:51:49 – 1:51:50)

Yes.

[Mr. Harris] (1:51:50 – 1:52:40)

All right. But I’m telling you, when the hammer falls, the only thing is if your name’s in the book, if your name’s written in that book and nobody transferred it, you’re okay. And if it’s not in the book, we will assist you.

If it is one of these online brokers that insist you hold them into street name so they can short it, which, hey, by the way, they’ve admitted they don’t do, and I understand that. Everybody likes to tell a little white lie every now and then. I like how they worded their protocol.

That’s what they told the majority of their shareholders. Our protocol and our systems do not allow for shorting of the stock. And it just fascinates me, because I know it’s a lie, or at least when I know a friend that’s sitting here holding shares in his name, he may need a book.

[Mr. Stanley] (1:52:41 – 1:53:05)

That’s right. And the other question, when you ask why Merrill Lynch or one of the other larger companies, most of them, I mean, very few of them, they don’t play in the penny market. They play on the NASDAQ board.

With NASDAQ-qualified companies. So, you know, it’s less risk of shorting on the bigger board.

[Mr. Harris] (1:53:05 – 1:53:11)

And the question is, was that a plug for Merrill Lynch?

You better believe it was. Merrill Lynch is outstanding.

[Mr. Stanley] (1:53:12 – 1:53:17)

Merrill Lynch is great.

I love them. I love them. I love them people there.

[Mr. Harris] (1:53:17 – 1:53:25)

No, they don’t play. Merrill Lynch protects their people. We’ve seen it personally.

Merrill Lynch is a good firm, an outstanding firm.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:53:25 – 1:53:25)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (1:53:25 – 1:55:08)

Now, I’m not saying that there’s other ones that isn’t. We haven’t experienced too many of them. See, when you’re on the inside and you’re workings of it, and you receive, in their mind, you get your, a friend of mine referred to it, the BBAN situation that we went through, because these guys still have negative stuff in the SEC about it.

They were actually, we left it. I didn’t care. I didn’t want to spend any more money on it.

When you’re dealing with these guys, they’re making money on a daily basis. We were having to pull money out of our own situation to fight these guys. And it was hard.

But we come out. We’re still here today. And that was the goal.

They accused us of fraud. But that’s like I told the judge in the courtroom. They will do anything and say anything.

I have seen these rings, literally, just documents will totally change from night with your signature on them. And the next day, it is nowhere near what you thought. They will stop at nothing to make their dollars.

They’re not there to help you. They’re not there to cause liquidity of the market. Yeah, okay, it helps in liquidity.

Well, you tell you what, I don’t think we need your liquidity. We’re going to get it from the institution by having what we have. All right, that’s, we don’t want it.

We do not see in any shape, form or fashion, what you’re doing is benefiting shareholders. Matter of fact, it’s fraud. If you can go home at night and sleep and do it, get in the day and go home at night and sleep.

I wouldn’t want to be you one day. I really wouldn’t.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:55:09 – 1:55:35)

Right, okay. Now, the individual, the person that asked the question with regards to what does market conditions have to do with the 10k release? Um, they, they acknowledged that you admitted or not.

You admitted they, uh, they acknowledge you said it was a good question, but they didn’t pull the, the answer out. What, what exactly does the marketing conditions have to do with the 10k release?

[Mr. Harris] (1:55:35 – 1:55:40)

Okay. I tell you what, after how quick are you going to rerun this when this is over with?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:55:41 – 1:55:51)

Um, it’ll probably be normally I start replaying this at midnight, but since we’re knocking on midnight, it’ll probably be about one, 2 a.m. But it’ll be playing all day tomorrow.

[Mr. Harris] (1:55:51 – 1:55:55)

The person that asked that question at 1 or 2 a.m. when he replayed it.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:55:55 – 1:55:55)

Yep.

[Mr. Harris] (1:55:56 – 1:56:00)

Listen to the part where I answered it the first time and you’ll get your answer.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:56:01 – 1:56:09)

All right. All right. Sounds good.

Um, let’s see. We’ve got, uh, still.

[Mr. Harris] (1:56:09 – 1:56:15)

Hey, if you don’t mind, Simon, let me know how, how much advertising you pick up off of this, if you don’t mind.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:56:16 – 1:56:34)

Sure, sure. Um, let’s see. Just looking through here.

Can we ask Rufus? Do you think that there will be any problem with people selling their shares? Even if the, the shares are in street name after the prices reset, if people were to sell their shares?

[Mr. Harris] (1:56:35 – 1:57:00)

I mean, today, how many shares traded yesterday? How many shares traded? Go back to the time from that first decade and add the shares up.

And ask yourself, how many times have the flow actually flipped? And if it’s real, then that is buying and selling. Why would I be concerned about buying and selling when the flow’s already flipped 400 times?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:57:01 – 1:57:13)

Right. No, it does. I mean, if, if, if the price is reset and they’re still trying to cover their shorts and they need shares in order to cover those shorts, it shouldn’t be that big of a deal to sell your shares.

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (1:57:13 – 1:57:15)

Hey, according to business liquidity.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:57:16 – 1:57:23)

Right. Supply and demand. So if they, if they’re trying to cover and you own the real shares.

[Mr. Harris] (1:57:23 – 1:58:14)

No, it’s not a problem. I’ll make a, I’ll make a guarantee to you as the shareholder here. And I may get shot by Sabra Dabbs when I say this.

And R.H. Bennett’s probably gonna have a heart attack right about now. A little bit of advice for everybody. So if you ever want the sharpest attorney you can find, I mean, I’ve been through the best SEC attorneys in New York that you pay a thousand dollars an hour and they bill you $10 a piece of paper.

Get you one that has dealt with a whole lot of crooks in their life. And they know everything that they cut that they can throw at them. So when you’re dealing with crooks, get you an attorney that used to defend them.

And that’s it. All right.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:58:15 – 1:58:23)

So, so, so your advice is if you’re going to go after the best SEC or lawyer, go after one that actually has defended crooks.

[Mr. Harris] (1:58:23 – 1:59:24)

What the company will do is if they want to go and dump the market, we at any given time have an option to put up a proxy and we’ll offer that market. And we’ve already put on the table and have discussed executing section B and have blocked and on the books of the company put aside, as I stated earlier, $900 million to cover everybody at $15 a share. If these guys come out here and play hard, what, $15 a share?

Fine, guess what? Let’s go private. We’ll put a proxy out.

We’ll vote everybody private. We won’t deal with them. And we’ll give you dividends and additional public company stock from here on out.

We’ll pay you dividends in cash. Let’s forget about it. If they’re going to play hardball and short this stuff and function outside and do all this illegal activities, we’ll still take care of them.

Okay.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:59:24 – 1:59:34)

Now, earlier you had mentioned something about a JJ being a director with CMKX. Just out of curiosity…

[Mr. Harris] (1:59:34 – 1:59:37)

JJ Sebring, I thought it was. I think that’s what he went by. Go ahead.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:59:37 – 1:59:39)

No, that’s what we were actually…

[Mr. Harris] (1:59:39 – 1:59:44)

He talked to me, by the way, in the beginning. He helped me to go on Powertalk. He’s the first person to get me on Powertalk.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:59:45 – 1:59:45)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (1:59:46 – 1:59:56)

And he liked me to start with. And then after that, he told everybody to sell right when R Street came out. So go ahead with your question.

Well, no, just… I’m just trying to make sure everybody’s got all the facts that I have. So go ahead.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (1:59:56 – 2:00:08)

Right. No, that’s what we’re trying to figure out. You know, JJ could represent, you know, JJ from Good Times or, you know, whatever.

So we were just curious to find out which JJ were you referring to with regards…

[Mr. Harris] (2:00:08 – 2:00:10)

Oh, everybody on iHub knows who he is. Oh, man, did iHub.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:00:11 – 2:00:11)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (2:00:11 – 2:00:16)

The guy that put me in jail. Call him and ask him. Give him some problems for a while.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:00:17 – 2:00:23)

Okay. All right. So…

All right. So it was the JJ Sebrook that you were speaking of earlier?

[Mr. Harris] (2:00:25 – 2:01:31)

JJ Sebrook. Yes, it was. Okay.

At least he got lied to me. He told me he was a… Well, he was.

His name was down. See, the reason we have a bad taste about CMKX, okay, is the guys that we were dealing with in Broadband, which are, by the way, are crooks. Michael Williams, Steve McAllister, and Ron Tripp.

Yes, you are crooks. You are liars. And we put an offer on it to reverse merger in with them.

We offered BBAN one last opportunity. You know why? Because a lot of the people that bought the shares and they robbed from, and the ring robbed the shares from, we tried to stop them.

And that’s the reason for the reverse merger. And no shareholders bought because of us. And we’ve always discussed an obligation.

And there’s multiple numbers of shareholders that have bought that have agreed to go back and sue these people one day. When everyone has the time. But go ahead with the next question.

I don’t even want to talk about it anymore.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:01:32 – 2:01:48)

Right. Okay. Now, one of the questions is, you’ve mentioned before that you have market makers kind of on standby, and it might not be the exact terminology you’ve used, but…

[Mr. Harris] (2:01:48 – 2:01:53)

Well, we contacted one market maker, and then the second one contacted Ben.

[Mr. Stanley] (2:01:53 – 2:02:00)

Yeah, I’m negotiating. I’m trying to put everything together as we speak in the close that situation out.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:02:01 – 2:02:01)

Okay.

[Mr. Stanley] (2:02:01 – 2:02:06)

So we will have market makers sign here shortly.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:02:06 – 2:02:13)

Okay. And at what point will the market maker and institutional buying actually start kicking in?

[Mr. Stanley] (2:02:15 – 2:02:19)

I’ll … they’ll determine that after we solidify our deal.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:02:20 – 2:02:22)

Okay, so after the 10K has been released?

[Mr. Harris] (2:02:23 – 2:02:26)

Let me give you a hint, and this is public knowledge.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:02:26 – 2:02:26)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (2:02:26 – 2:03:53)

We put it in our [inaudible]. With one of the institutions that we’ve dealt with when we started this, the CVSU, prior to our shares even being… CVSU never traded, by the way.

We didn’t want to go out on a pink sheet. So we were waiting to go on the Over the Counter Bulletin Board, or straight to the NASDAQ, which was our goal. And then Front Haul happened to jump into the mix there with us.

But that institution that we worked with, the thing we did with them after we opened our account, is execute a buyback at a certain dollar limit, up to $35, before we’re going to let people lose. And when we buy the shares back from the people that we have on their little names down on our list, then we own the company back. And that’s the goal.

Before we drop it, we have put it in place that it is at the discretion of the board and directors to buy back the stock up to $35 a share, if we’re uncomfortable with where the market’s going. That’s at the option of the board, and it’s the CEO of any company. Why they do not do it, if their stock’s tanking, I do not understand.

If they don’t have the money, I feel sorry for you, gentlemen. Call us, and we’ll arrange a financing deal for you if your deal’s good enough, and we’ll get you the money. We might even buy it from you.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:03:53 – 2:04:32)

Okay. Barbecue Chicken is asking about, I think there’s still some confusion about cash accounts and margin accounts. Let me just take a moment and explain what I understand about cash and margin.

With the cash accounts, folks, the big difference between the margin and the cash accounts is with margin accounts, you don’t have to wait for the three-day settlement rule if you trade your stocks. If you’re trading marginable securities, then you can short those stocks. All right.

So, good deal. All right. So, we’ve got that clear now.

Says, I still don’t understand why they told you…

[Mr. Harris] (2:04:32 – 2:04:35)

Hey, I want to throw something out for you for everybody to get food for thought.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:04:35 – 2:04:36)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (2:04:36 – 2:07:25)

One of the business deals we did in the past was from one of the directors of the Indian, the exchange, Indian exchange. Go and look at what they’re going through. They’re going through a T1 settlement, a limit.

What 90% of you would consider as a third-world, overpopulated, dangerous country, and their system is better than the great United States of America. Why? That’s the question you need to ask.

How can this stuff happen? You’re allowing it. You’re sitting here every day buying this stuff, going into it, and dealing with it, and you’re allowing it.

You’re giving the money. You’re feeding the beast. Stop feeding the beast.

Get them where it hurts. Take their money out of their pocket. Don’t allow them…

Allow no shares in the market that they can trade with. If you want to sell, don’t sell on their panic. That’s how they get your shares out of your pocket.

That’s what they’re doing. We’re sitting here talking with you, Simon, right now. And last week, we had a fraudulent press release put out that was orchestrated, and it was orchestrated with a major dive in the market.

Everyone saw it. How can stuff like this happen? How can we allow it to happen?

Why is it happening? No one’s doing nothing about it. Everybody told each other, oh, my Lord, I can’t believe this.

And then it’s just like when the 10K didn’t come out and the NC came out. Oh, my God, it was crazy out there. People were talking about Logan Jones was coming to Atlanta.

I know they were joking, but la, la, la. And then the 8KA come out and a form of reality set in and said, no, wait a second. All the 10K is, is audited financials.

And we just got that in an 8KA. The only other information in the 10K is all the other blanks that filled in required by the SEC that’s bringing you up to date. So that’s what we’re so good about.

We’ll notify you in 8K. You’re going to know everything. Our 10K is nothing, like I said once, the 10Q with every filing up until this point and information about our company.

Who’s who, what’s what, who’s getting paid what, that’s it. What else? You know, these guys are saying, oh, it’s going to have bad information.

Well, guess what? All it’s going to be is what you already have.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:07:25 – 2:07:25)

Right. So let me-

[Mr. Harris] (2:07:26 – 2:07:29)

What bad information is there to come?

[Mr. Stanley] (2:07:29 – 2:07:31)

It’s already been announced.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:07:31 – 2:07:31)

Sure.

[Mr. Harris] (2:07:31 – 2:07:55)

You already have everything. The only thing you don’t have is some, some other instruments we made. We have a contract on the table to, you know, for an additional asset from a group, stuff like that.

That’s the only thing you’re going to have in addition to what you already have. Except for, you know, I’ve been in business this long, Ben’s done this, Faber’s done this, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. That’s all you’re going to get.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:07:56 – 2:07:56)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (2:07:56 – 2:07:58)

Mitch, I didn’t mean to leave you out by the way.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:07:58 – 2:08:11)

Let me ask you a question. Now, does, does the 8K, I mean, because we’ve, we’ve talked about that earlier in, you know, on the first call, on the first call, we talked about that. But right now you’re not waiting on any signatures or signups for the 10K, right?

[Mr. Harris] (2:08:12 – 2:08:15)

You’re just waiting- Let me tell you what we’re waiting on. I’ll be honest with you.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:08:15 – 2:08:15)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (2:08:15 – 2:08:19)

What did I say earlier? I’m going to go ahead and answer it again.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:08:19 – 2:08:20)

All right.

[Mr. Harris] (2:08:20 – 2:08:22)

But I’ve already answered that question earlier.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:08:22 – 2:08:22)

Yes.

[Mr. Harris] (2:08:22 – 2:10:56)

The 29th was the drop dead date for the show list. If they did not, Front Haul shareholders did not have their certificates exchanged through the system, then it’s over. You don’t have any shares.

Your shares are not real. They’re not going to be real. We will assist you to get your money.

That’s it. Now, we pull a NOBO list as of the 29th. Because there are shareholders that sold higher in the little scare suit stuff from NM1.

They were able to steal your shares from you. Rufus is going to be here. Oh, everybody run out, posted everywhere.

People of these boards need to go and look and find and trace these people that could orchestrated this ordeal. You have the authority. I hope you don’t want to be tagged as the group that’s responsible as part of it.

Go out here and say who the people that come out and post it. Pull their names out. Send them to us.

Work with us. Don’t work against us. Because we are coming.

When it comes down, all of this fraud, we will put money in an institution. And if we have to, buy a law firm and let them deal with these people. And that will be their only job.

Go deal with them. Straighten this up. Somebody has to stop this stuff from going on.

The SEC has become an overregulated. I’m going to give you an example. I’m going to ask you one question.

And there ain’t a person out here that can go to the SEC website. No one. I don’t care what your IQ is.

Go sit down and read all of this gibberish, crazy rules and regulations. How many there is? Go read them.

A lot of them good. Some of them make no sense. Some of them is not in place for the shareholders.

Some of them is in place for the institution. Try to read them. One person sit down and try to read every single one of them.

And understand it. And know what it says. You cannot.

Okay. Throw back it out. SEC came back.

They came out with a study saying $1.3 million a company will spend two days in ensuring compliance with the FTC filing with a law firm. How many attorneys have we met, Ben, that have brains of cottage cheese? You know, the system is out of control.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:10:57 – 2:10:57)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (2:10:57 – 2:11:29)

And until somebody steps up and stops it, billions of dollars are being robbed from moms and pops in this country every single day. Now, this did not start out. This started out as a business deal.

We were moving on. We knew we were going to have to deal with this problem after we went ahead and put out our SB2 filing. We knew the guys that we messed with in the past, because they are evil, are going to attack us again.

We knew this day was coming. It just came a lot quicker with Front Haul.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:11:31 – 2:11:53)

Okay. Now, let’s see. One of the questions we asked earlier had to do with, well, actually, before I get into that, there’s one question.

There’s 197 people listening right now in Pal Talk, and they would all like to know how you feel about Mr. A. That would be Michael Alexander.

[Mr. Harris] (2:11:54 – 2:11:55)

About who?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:11:55 – 2:11:56)

Michael Alexander.

[Mr. Harris] (2:11:57 – 2:12:03)

I think Michael Alexander is an outstanding individual. I have nothing but respect for Michael Alexander.

[Mr. Stanley] (2:12:04 – 2:12:07)

Oh, Mike has just completed a major deal.

[Mr. Harris] (2:12:08 – 2:12:10)

I’d be careful. Be careful.

[Mr. Stanley] (2:12:10 – 2:12:19)

Okay. You don’t want me to let it go, bro.

Okay. I think he already pressed it out there, bro.

[Mr. Harris] (2:12:19 – 2:12:27)

Now you know why we got in between the break here, everyone in our company was calling me, and that right there is the reason.

[Mr. Stanley] (2:12:27 – 2:12:30)

Yeah, that was. Okay.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:12:31 – 2:12:33)

You almost let the cat out the bag.

[Mr. Harris] (2:12:33 – 2:13:11)

Mike is great. I told Mike, as the relationship builds with Mike, at any point in time, I would not have a problem from him taking anything on when I retire and being a CEO, but he may have a problem with that, Mike. What’s all this lobbying out here, Mike?

I want to get this stuff out. What’s all this lobbying for Mike out here on HSM? You guys, I want to know what kind of ulterior motive.

When I told you that, did you take that literally? I heard you on Pal Talk the other night, Mike. What was that all about, dude?

Go ahead.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:13:12 – 2:13:14)

All right. Another question.

[Mr. Harris] (2:13:15 – 2:13:22)

You stop all this silly stuff by bringing it out in the open where everybody hears it and their friend looks at them and say, you know, dude, everybody did lobby for you.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:13:22 – 2:13:32)

Sure. So another question is why doesn’t Conversion Solutions just issue a cash dividend that would force the shorts to pay the dividend also?

[Mr. Harris] (2:13:33 – 2:14:12)

I’m going to tell you something. Like I said earlier, the same thing I said earlier, I wait when this trigger is pulled. When it’s triggered, I promise you, you will have not seen anything like what is coming on the other end of it.

Before you get there, this right, Simon, how long have you been in? I’ve listened to a couple of your, I get a lot of complaints about it earlier on that you say this, and I’ve heard shareholders call you. Actually, the two you were speaking with earlier [Simon: Michael and James], he called you one night and I listened to him talk, listened to y’all’s conversation.

And you were very skeptical on it and everybody was trying to sell you on it. And that’s why they were calling.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:14:13 – 2:14:13)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (2:14:13 – 2:14:26)

This guy’s knocking you on it. Listen to it. So of course, you’re going to go in and hear what they’re saying.

What it comes down to is, this is when I heard it found out about the PQL guy.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:14:26 – 2:14:29)

Okay. That was Tim.

[Mr. Harris] (2:14:29 – 2:14:31)

The guy I asked was your friend, Tim.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:14:31 – 2:14:31)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (2:14:32 – 2:14:43)

[inaudible] was the R Street. The reason I say that is because he sounds very similar to the R Street that called me. I come back to that.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:14:43 – 2:15:00)

Okay. I mean, if Tim from PQL Research is the Tim from R Street, that’s news to me. Especially since a lot of the listeners have actually said that the Tim from R Street is actually overseas.

[Mr. Harris] (2:15:01 – 2:16:41)

See, that’s where you trace it down. It’s a very neat little deal. The guy that’s actually posting on there made a mistake when he did his first post, when he first put his website up.

He come back and said, the original founder of this site, Timothy Miles, has did nothing with it. If you actually notice, that was out there. Matter of fact, it’s on our email.

I’ve seen it before when we were scanning through it. That was his first mistake because he told him he was not Timothy Miles. Timothy Miles has been traced to running companies in a foreign country.

We tracked it down. We sent letters over to him and so on and so on. We were comfortable to come out and find back that it’s not coming from outside that country.

It is a fake site and it is an idiot. He is, without a shadow of a doubt, probably tied to Robbie Board at the New York Post. If you go look at that organization, you’ll find out that the New York Post online has had, what, four or five people been brought in to SEC inquiries for bashing stock that has been found out to be a pump-and-dump or that has been tied to short-selling.

His information is out there. When you see somebody post something, research them. When people come and then say, hey, you’ve been in Broadband and you had this bad past, you’re right.

I didn’t have anything to hide. It was a learning experience. It was a heck of one, too.

If I hadn’t went to Broadband and Ben hadn’t – we hadn’t went to Broadband, we wouldn’t be here today. Is that not true, Ben?

[Mr. Stanley] (2:16:42 – 2:16:42)

That’s true.

[Mr. Harris] (2:16:42 – 2:17:03)

We would not be in this situation today holding these guys’ livelihoods in our hands. I know, gentlemen, you don’t think it is, but I just love it. I can’t wait to, I promise you very soon, I’m going to be dancing to a field of tulips just singing your name.

I told you so. Wait and see.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:17:04 – 2:17:14)

All right. Now, another question is, have you all ever received any cease and desist orders from any of the bondholders?

[Mr. Harris] (2:17:16 – 2:17:33)

I love this. This is Our Street little deal. The Slippery Tim, who posted that to you?

What is he going by? What kind of IM is it? Is it Microsoft or Internet Explorer or is it AOL?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:17:33 – 2:17:38)

This one’s actually an SBC address.

[Mr. Harris] (2:17:39 – 2:17:40)

Okay.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:17:41 – 2:17:44)

Yeah, so it’s not an AOL. It’s not a Hotmail or any of those.

[Mr. Harris] (2:17:44 – 2:17:46)

Let me help you on this situation.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:17:46 – 2:17:47)

All right.

[Mr. Harris] (2:17:47 – 2:19:36)

You have two large organizations that sign a securities contract involving high-end banking security. You file it with the SEC inside a public company. Now, how on this earth would any idiot believe you can see and do that?

Don’t believe it. How can you see and do it? How can you issue a C and D to a securities contract after this contract already been registered with the SEC … that in itself is securities fraud?

I mean, you can’t just go between two companies and say, okay, we don’t want to do business with you no more. We found out that, I don’t know, you wear your shoes on the wrong feet, so we’re not going to do business with you no more. There’s contracts.

Our contracts are public. Read the contract. You have to go through a federal court to remove stuff like this.

You just don’t undo them by saying, I want to undo them. But I’m going to tell you, you know, when they say if it’s too good to be true, don’t believe it. If it’s too stupid to be true, don’t believe it.

There is things that’s too good to be true. You are blessed in this life. You just, there are very few and far between.

But stupid stuff like that, it goes, that’s the negative stuff Ben’s talking about. When, you know where negative stuff comes from. They’re not, he didn’t come out there and say and try to do it.

It’s very strange. Let’s say a C and D was issued.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:19:41 – 2:23:59)

You still there? Hello? Rufus?

Looks like Rufus may have dropped off. I heard his little phone chirping. I don’t know if his cell phone died, the battery died, because it did sound like a little chirp.

And I think we may have lost Rufus. We may have talked too long on his, on his little cell phone. Let me see if that number is cell number.

Let’s see. I guess those of you that actually are in tight with Rufus. I don’t know if there’s another number that he’s going to call me back on, or if I need to call him back on a different number.

But let’s go ahead and take a quick break. And hopefully, because there’s still plenty of questions to ask. And we will be right back when hopefully we get Rufus back on the line.

Here’s a little U2, just in case you guys need to, you know, powder your nose and do whatever you need to do. And welcome back. It’s 1230 a.m. Tuesday morning, October 3rd, 2006. Wow. Yeah. So this has been like a marathon.

And yeah, those of you that remember when we used to do the show live during market hours, 9 a.m. To 5 p.m. Eastern Time. It’s not, it’s not too difficult for me to talk straight eight hours. You guys know that.

But tonight I got it pretty easy. Rufus is doing a lot of talking. And he’s, he’s actually going to be calling right back during that one song by U2.

He actually did dial in. I said, call back after the song. And he’s going to try to get Ben back on the phone.

So again, don’t want to make this necessarily a, a true marathon session, but do want to get, make sure all your questions are answered. So while I wait for Mr. Rufus and Ben to dial back in, let’s see what else we’ve got going on. We’ve got Joy.

How you doing? It says, Simon, are you there? Yes, I am here.

And I do need to ask Rufus about the, the charity trust, not charitable trust. All right. So it seems like when I was asking Rufus if he was actually open to doing a charitable trust, he said, yes, that was currently in the works.

But that’s not exactly what Joy was speaking of. She was talking about a charity trust. All right.

Let’s go back over here. We got Barbecue Chicken. So Simon might want to know who is responsible if you bought.

Okay. Hold on. Let’s go to the phones real quick.

I think this is Rufus. Hello, Caller. You’re live on SubPenny Radio.

Who am I speaking to? All right. All right.

Good to have you back. Is Ben with us also? All right.

Good deal. All right. Three more questions.

Let’s see if we can find three good questions. All right. So you guys were letting me know that you could not hear Rufus.

I just fixed it. I can hear Rufus. Not right now because he’s getting Ben on the other line.

They’ve agreed to three more questions. And when they come back on the air, you should be able to hear him. So thank you, Barbecue Chicken.

Bringing that to my attention. I looked over and said, yep, that’s why you guys can’t hear. That’s why.

So good deal. And yeah, right now you don’t hear anybody but me because Rufus is actually switching.

[Mr. Harris] (2:23:59 – 2:24:00)

All right.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:24:00 – 2:24:01)

And we got Ben.

[Mr. Harris] (2:24:02 – 2:24:04)

No, Ben didn’t. Ben’s not on. He didn’t answer.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:24:04 – 2:24:15)

Okay. Not a big deal. All right.

So let me actually clear through some of these because a lot of folks are saying, man, we can’t hear Rufus, but now they should be able to hear you. I guess.

[Mr. Harris] (2:24:16 – 2:24:19)

That’s probably why, because I had him three-wayed in. Sometimes you lose some of the feed.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:24:20 – 2:24:27)

Sure, sure. Not a problem. Let me see.

Since we’re only down to three questions, let me see which one is actually going to be. I don’t want to, you know.

[Mr. Harris] (2:24:27 – 2:24:36)

Well, I mean, I’m here as long as you are, if you want to make it a marathon. I got a question for you, too. I’d like to know.

Go ahead. Do you do this from your home?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:24:36 – 2:24:36)

I do.

[Mr. Harris] (2:24:37 – 2:24:43)

I thought so. I’ve heard kids before, so I was curious. Hey, that’s cool, too.

I run the majority of mine from my home also.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:24:43 – 2:24:46)

Exactly. You know, we started this show.

[Mr. Harris] (2:24:46 – 2:24:47)

How many kids you got?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:24:47 – 2:24:50)

We’ve got two. We got two young ones.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:24:50 – 2:24:50)

I’ve got three girls.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:24:51 – 2:26:10)

Oh, three girls. Excellent. Excellent.

Yeah, I got one of each. So they say it’s a rich man’s family. You know, I’m happy with what I have.

As they say, all from above, right? That’s it. So SJ says, there seems to be some confusion regarding shareholders who are in and out.

Okay, I guess this is going back to if they’re in the book, if they’re not in the book. And correct me if I’m wrong. Let me see if I can paraphrase this correctly, Rufus, and keep me honest if I’m not.

For those people that buy shares, regardless of whatever time frame, if you buy them tomorrow, next week, if you want your name in the book, meaning the record of the company CSHD, you need to make sure your shares are not in street name. The way you do that, regardless of whatever broker you use, after you’ve traded your stock and you now have them in your account, pick up the phone, call your broker and say you want to request the certificates in your name, not street name. They may give you an excuse that they cannot guarantee it or whatever.

Whatever it ends up and you settle on, then contact the transfer agent and make sure that the transfer agent has your name on their record. Is that right, Rufus?

[Mr. Harris] (2:26:11 – 2:28:30)

It’s the only way I can guarantee that your name is in the book. Okay, that’s it. Whatever, the only possible way is if you’re holding it in your name electronically, not in the certificate.

You don’t have to get the certificate. Just make sure it’s held electronically in your name. That still shows up through the DTC system.

When we pull for a proxy report, it gives us the name of every people that send it to, and then there’s a block of shares that are held in what some people call the elbow, which is street name. And that’s voted and orchestrated through your broker. The only way I can guarantee your name’s on there is that you get all the information.

Look, how are we going to give you if we don’t have a list of your name and who you are and your address? How are we going to give you the logins to our website? Anybody that calls us, if your name’s not in the book and we can’t verify you’re a shareholder, we’re just going to say, I’m sorry.

Call this person, log your name, give them your address, who you are, how many shares you have and where you hold it. Get a letter from them saying you hold shares. Contact us back.

That’s the type of stuff that legal and all have to deal with when it gets to that point, if it does. But if I don’t have your name and address and it’s not on the books of the company, how are you going to get your proxy? How am I going to assign you a website code to that shareholder for this many shares?

We’re going to have a portfolio system that is set up into our, we’ve already worked it out with QuoteStream, who is the drive system behind over-the-counter bulletin board. The only reason we don’t have it now, we were going to have real-time level two on our website and the NASDAQ prevented us from doing it. NASDAQ said, okay, you’re going to have to have each individual that views this on your website to sign a special document saying they’re not going to hold us liable for the real-time information.

Okay, how do I pass out documents to be signed if I don’t have your name? If you’re not able to get in, it creates trouble for me. In the perpetual corporation that we’re designing and are heading toward, we’ll be considered as a real-time corporation.

You mark my word, Simon, you’re going to step back and remember the night I told you, our financials will be real-time on the website. We’ll be the first to do it.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:28:34 – 2:29:11)

I’m sure within the OTC market, you will definitely be the first to do that. I know the company that I used to work for, the Fortune 500 company, they’ve actually had this type of system that you’re speaking of in place for their franchises and different owners. It was a management company.

It wasn’t an asset management company, but it was a management company. And for anyone out there that says, oh, Rufus is talking smack again, no such thing exists, that’s not true. A lot of larger companies actually already have these systems in place.

[Mr. Harris] (2:29:12 – 2:30:09)

Of course, every single high-end executive of a large company can look at a report that is generated electronically out of their database system and pull it at any given time. If they can’t, how do they get to where they are? If they can’t pull a report that tells them how many purchase orders are out, if they can’t pull a report and tell you how much the checking is and how many checks are out, how do they run it?

So for someone to say that you can’t have a real-time corporation, they’re there today, it’s just not passed to the shareholders. They have a buffer zone. Inside the OTC rules and regulations is quarters.

There’s three months design and late time fees, and you get to dance and finagle and try to make things sound good or use the war of words to try to manipulate it for the shareholders. There’s no reason to manipulate anything. It is what it is.

And we all feel that you get the good with the bad.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:30:10 – 2:31:44)

Sure, sure. So now let me just hit that one point again. And I realize that there are probably some listeners coming in now that didn’t hear the beginning of this call and the show, that’s fine.

But those of you that are concerned about your certificates being in the book, take a pencil, take a pen, whatever you need to, and write this down. All right. Number one, first step is buy your shares.

If you don’t already have them. Again, I don’t give buy-sell-hold recommendations. I’m just saying those of you that are concerned, you don’t want to miss what’s going on.

You make the decision after you own your shares. If you want to own those shares, step one is contact your broker. Step two, ask them, will they allow you to have their certificates in your name electronically?

If the answer is yes, then ask them to place CSHD shares that you own in your name electronically. If they say no, then the only way that you’re going to be able to get those certificates in your name is through a DTCC transfer. And at that point, request that.

They’re going to give you a song and dance. It’s going to take anywhere from 10 to 12 business days, whatever. Tell them, make it happen.

Then next thing, contact the transfer agent. And it’s not going to be the same day. It’s not going to be five minutes later that the transfer agent now has your name in the list.

It’s going to be at least 24 hours, 48 hours, something like that, Rufus?

[Mr. Harris] (2:31:45 – 2:32:23)

Well, the transfer agent’s responsibility is to deal with the shares on the books. If you’re not on the books, you’re definitely not going to get first priority. He has a job to perform.

He must perform his job. And then in his alternate time frame of the multiple companies that he handles… By the way, I’m going to bring something else that that brings to me.

What blowed my mind was that two of the guys that I mentioned were crooks in the last company. Don, what are you doing being a transfer agent for Keith McAllister and Ron Tripp on that pink-sheets company? Good Lord, dude.

I’m sorry. Go ahead.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:32:24 – 2:32:34)

Now, it sounds like that you’re on a regular contact basis with your transfer agent, Don. For those that don’t know, the phone number…

[Mr. Harris] (2:32:34 – 2:32:36)

I’m not going to talk to me after tonight, but go ahead.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:32:36 – 2:32:41)

I was going to say, do you happen to know the phone number that people can write down for the transfer agent? Do you have that memorized?

[Mr. Harris] (2:32:42 – 2:32:56)

Call 411. Spend 50 cents and call 411. It’s just…

That’s how you can get it. We put it out in our first press release when we announced that they were going to be our transfer agent of choice.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:32:56 – 2:32:57)

Right. Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (2:32:57 – 2:33:22)

The reason we used Don was because he’s an outstanding transfer agent and extremely knowledgeable. I’ve run across very few transfer agents out here that is as knowledgeable as Don. Don, he’ll work with you on anything, answer any question you ask.

He’s an outstanding guy. If someone wanted to do that, put personal time into a business deal, it can’t be all that bad.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:33:22 – 2:33:57)

Right. Now, one of the listeners actually did give us the phone number. So those that are interested in the transfer agent phone number, that is area code 702-317-7757.

Again, it’s 703-317-7757 is the transfer agent phone number. So thank you. To die is gain.

Let’s go over here to see what else we’ve got. Oh, I’m sorry. Area code 702.

The phone number’s right. I said the wrong area code. 702 is the area code.

Thank you. You guys are paying attention better than I am.

[Mr. Harris] (2:33:57 – 2:34:00)

There’s somebody at 713 that’s going to be pissed at you, dude.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:34:00 – 2:34:06)

Exactly. All right. So now, earlier we asked the question.

[Mr. Harris] (2:34:06 – 2:34:13)

Oh, yeah, I know. That was cute when you throw that little joke out there about it sounding like Georgia. That was for your redneck and sterile to answer, wasn’t it?

Go ahead.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:34:15 – 2:34:19)

Yeah. Well, you know, I used to live in Georgia at one point.

[Mr. Harris] (2:34:19 – 2:34:23)

Well, you know, it’s a southern drawl. I’m going to tell you what. Overseas, the women love it.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:34:23 – 2:34:37)

Exactly, you know. Um, yeah. In fact, I used to be down there in the Golden Isles down in the coast.

So that was down there by Jekyll Island and St. Simon’s Island.

[Mr. Harris] (2:34:38 – 2:34:39)

Very nice area, by the way.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:34:39 – 2:34:44)

Yeah. Yeah, I miss it. It’s a nice place.

Used to live there on the island myself.

[Mr. Harris] (2:34:45 – 2:34:45)

Really?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:34:46 – 2:34:49)

Yeah. Let’s see. We’ve got…

[Mr. Harris] (2:34:49 – 2:34:52)

You know that’s a vacation, big vacation spot.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:34:52 – 2:34:55)

Oh, absolutely. Yeah, definitely.

[Mr. Harris] (2:34:55 – 2:34:58)

You got some DC. Now I’m starting to put it together on either side.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:34:59 – 2:35:00)

Are you now? Good deal.

[Mr. Harris] (2:35:00 – 2:35:00)

Go ahead.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:35:01 – 2:35:15)

Good deal. Let’s see. Matty Boy is asking at the end.

All right. No, that’s a different question. Let’s see.

They are asking if you could actually speak up just a little bit. They can hear you now, but you’re a little soft. Let’s see what else we’ve got.

[Mr. Harris] (2:35:15 – 2:35:16)

Is that any better?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:35:16 – 2:35:26)

Yep, that is. That’s great. We’ve got this one listener asking about, have you received any phone calls from the SEC?

And it’s kind of open-ended, so that can go either way. Recently.

[Mr. Harris] (2:35:27 – 2:35:28)

Say again?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:35:29 – 2:35:38)

It’s an open-ended question, and they’re asking if you received any recent SEC phone calls or spoken with anyone from the SEC recently.

[Mr. Harris] (2:35:38 – 2:39:01)

Another one of them questions. Yes, I have. I’ve spoken with several individuals from the SEC, and like I said, with me, open book, it was directly from complaints filed from this Mr. R. Street, whoever the guy is, and his little dancing. Yes, I did get a question from the SEC, and it was something like, do you post on iHub? Yes, I do post on iHub.

Can you send us all your posts? No, I’m not going to send you all my posts. Pay in subscription to iHub with that and go get my posts.

Why do you post on iHub? Because you let these guys get out here and commit fraud. Somebody’s got to do something about it.

That kind of stuff. That’s all the question was. A lot of the question was about the Humanitarian Scientific Foundation, but there wasn’t but about eight or nine questions.

I think 12 questions, to be honest with you. And it was not a formal or anything. It was an inquiry from complaints that they had from these crooks or these people that say, oh, we’re just doing due diligence.

We’re just out here to protect you. Well, ladies and gentlemen, they’re not spending their money to do it. Ask them who’s paying for their website.

Ask them who’s the owner of the website. These people, 90% of the time, if they don’t disclose who they are, why believe them? They’re going to go out and do a massive campaign of bashing and have troops take a little bitty something and spin it into a little bit of molehill and make it into a mountain on the Internet.

It’s law now, gentlemen. You must disclose yourself. If you’re going to accuse someone of fraud, you must disclose who you are.

You will be locked up and you can be locked up for this. I’ve posted that to several people. I’ve warned Demi about it.

I’ve warned several other people. There was a law that was passed. It was actually attached to the battered women law.

The Bush administration snuck it in and it made it through the system. There is an electronic law now about anything that passed over the Internet, okay? It’s the same as receiving mail.

If you mailed it out and sent it to everybody’s address and, you know, this guy, when you start talking about lawsuits, he starts going, our website has the country’s dirtiest bitch. You know, if you go to Our Street site, what you’re going to find, read his disclaimer. A guy that says this is not meant from any institution, any people inside the United States is not protected information or assimilated.

How can you even quote it? How can you ask me a question about it? Why would you waste my time?

Why would you waste time with your friends discussing it from somebody who’s going to make a statement like that? Why listen to anything they say if they try to protect theirself? That’s why I believe in no disclaimers.

I have nothing to ask for protection from. Either what we put out in a press release is real or I need to go to jail. I would not want to be lied to from a CEO that I own stock in.

So if we put it out and we sign off on it, you better bet your butt it’s in contract and we have what we say we have. Because I’m not going to jail for nobody.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:39:01 – 2:39:23)

Sure, sure. Now, one of the other listeners, they were asking about the August 18th company issued press release. And basically the headline was Conversion Solutions Holding Corp updates shareholders.

Inside that, that’s when you started giving the Lehman Brothers holding information in terms of the ISIN numbers and so forth.

[Mr. Harris] (2:39:23 – 2:39:24)

Correct.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:39:24 – 2:39:48)

In that same press release, you made a quote and it says, with the addition of this asset to the corporation, we are now looking at a new justifiable reorganization release price of $25.63. [Rufus: That’s true.] $10.63. [Rufus: As of that time.] Okay, so as of that time. I guess earlier we were talking about, you know…

[Mr. Harris] (2:39:48 – 2:39:48)

The $15.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:39:49 – 2:39:49)

Yeah, the $15.

[Mr. Harris] (2:39:49 – 2:39:50)

I see where you’re headed.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:39:50 – 2:39:51)

Right. So some of the listeners…

[Mr. Harris] (2:39:51 – 2:39:55)

I see where you’re headed. You’re saying in the PR, you stated $25. Now you’re stating $15.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:39:55 – 2:39:56)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (2:39:56 – 2:39:59)

$15 is what’s in the merger agreement, ladies and gentlemen.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:39:59 – 2:39:59)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (2:40:00 – 2:41:01)

We’re going to post what our book value is and we’re going to submit it to the SEC. We’re going to say, here it is at $15, but we feel it’s worth this figure. Because here’s the numbers.

They don’t lie. Now, if we move forward with that and it’s allowed to be released at the high number, then that’s what it’d be released at. But the only obligation as of this time is the $15 that’s in the merger agreement.

I can scratch and scrounge and holler. It’s like when I wanted a particular symbol from NASDAQ. Oh, guess what?

Our rules and regulations don’t allow you to have a particular symbol. Even though it’s not used, it’s just a way for an asshole sitting behind a desk, an attorney that sits behind a desk that says, we don’t let these people dictate what symbol they want to give us. Well, my acronym CSHC, I ask for CSHC.

They come back and say, you can’t have it, but we’ll give you CSHD. Well, there’s not a CSHC. Why?

You’re a butthole. That’s why. They don’t want to be dictated.

It’s the same thing. Same scenario.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:41:01 – 2:41:21)

Sure. Okay. All right.

So, again, for those that might have missed what was just said, $15 is what’s obligated based on the closure of the merger. If the market sees, based off of the financials and the evidence presented, that it’s worth more, then the market will adjust the price after the reset, right?

[Mr. Harris] (2:41:21 – 2:41:22)

Correct.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:41:23 – 2:41:32)

Now, with regards to the SEC inquiries, as you mentioned earlier, there’s been nothing with regards to the Humanitarian Group, correct?

[Mr. Harris] (2:41:32 – 2:43:19)

Yeah, there were some questions on the Humanitarian Group. They asked about the Lehman Brothers and so on and so on. And, you know, there’s certain things right now that you should know from knowing us that we deal with in a very firm and swift way.

Okay. I’m going to give you the whole entire spill out on the Humanitarian Scientific Foundation. Okay.

What we’ve come to find out is the Humanitarian Scientific Foundation had an agreement with another foundation, which was in Asia, and that Asian foundation had an agreement with the owner of the bond. The ambassador that we deal with in Europe actually knew the owner of the bond that had the first agreement with the foundation in Europe. Okay.

So what happens when you get into a situation like that is, is the owner of the bond that gives the assignment to this group says, I don’t know this other group and I hired them and I’m not going to pay nobody, but I’ll do the deal directly with you. That’s what happens 90% of the times in those situations. All right.

So when we state that we have something, if we do not state that we don’t, bet on it. If we leave it in the filing and don’t amend it, bet on it. Do not listen to the spinsters.

They are not your buddies. They are doing it for a reason. There is a motive behind these questions.

Totally. Half of the questions you’re answering from the postings they’re sending to you, what you really need to do, make sure you’re logging this stuff, Simon. Right.

Who’s sending this stuff and saving it and you keep a good computer file.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:43:19 – 2:43:19)

Sure.

[Mr. Harris] (2:43:19 – 2:44:01)

Or coming out and turning out to be insider trading, insider information that these people are what they think is insider, but they don’t understand it and they’re leaking it to the market. You will go to jail. I do not care if your cousin works for the SEC, I will see that you go to jail.

If the SEC doesn’t do anything about it, I can promise you a court in the state of Georgia will. I promise you. You keep up your little antics, you’re getting your information wherever you’re getting it from, it will be coming.

Go ahead.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:44:01 – 2:44:09)

All right. So along the SEC questions, they wanted to know if the SEC asked you anything about AISS.

[Mr. Harris] (2:44:10 – 2:44:12)

No. No questions about AISS.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:44:12 – 2:44:13)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (2:44:14 – 2:46:05)

AISS. Let’s clear the air on that. AISS is a joint venture corporation. We formed it.

The formation of that company originated from a joint venture contract that I wrote just because some little conniving snake got in there and perpetrated and promised a man that was in a bad situation at a time in a tight spot money and manipulated his mind. Dr. Menza lost his position with the corporation, and it was solely because of someone like R Street flying down to him, showing him a bunch of bullshit documents, convincing a genius, by the way, but he has very little common sense of something, and convincing the man that they’re going to fund him. All right.

We haven’t funded Dr. Menza because he is a genius when it comes to patents and stuff like that. I mean, I love the guy, and I’ll support him, and he may sue my butt for this, but I’m going to tell you, he couldn’t manage his way out of a cardboard box on a company. He just cannot, and that’s the only reason we never went ahead and moved forward with AISS.

Loved the guy to death. I tried to talk to him. I told him when he started the crap that you’re listening to some idiot that manipulated your mind.

You’re listening to the evil. Walk away from it, dude. They couldn’t do it.

I had to fire him. Everybody supported the situation. Loved the guy.

I hate doing that. The hardest thing, and my bare fault, anyone that knows me will tell you, is to terminate someone’s salary. I hate doing it because you know you’re going to affect their family.

I hate it. It just feels like you’re taking food off their kid’s table, and it’s just something I can’t do. I have people under me that are responsible for that.

But, go ahead.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:46:06 – 2:46:18)

Okay. Now, there’s some confusion with regards to a $5 billion bond that was cited in an 8K, but in Bloomberg, it shows they’re not giving me any information.

[Mr. Harris] (2:46:18 – 2:47:51)

I answered that one earlier. Please go back and reference when someone referenced an ISN number that was posted on Euroclear. They searched it on the internet, and what these people found is, okay, this bank holds it for this much.

Listen to me again, people. In the Euroclear System, assets and bonds and groups are blocked in groups. When you go into and access the Euroclear screen with the proper authorizational codes to get into it, you see all of them.

When we sign the contract to execute it, that contract is for the amount that we agree to take and put into our banking platform to pull down the funds against for the project. That’s the only part. Now, there may be $30 billion on screen.

There may be $50 billion in the portfolio that those codes and additional codes that you are not privy to, and you never will be privy to. It is not for you to know what someone else’s portfolio is, only what the contract that the corporation signed, and I’m giving that to you so people can see and the spinsters can say it ain’t real. So what they do is they go out there and say, oh, we can see $700 million.

Well, no crap, Sherlock. You’re not authorized. You don’t have a Euroclear screen.

You’re not high enough in blah, blah, blah to have that information. You’re not going to be privy to it. We give you every bit of information we can, and it’s real.

Go ahead.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:47:51 – 2:48:12)

Okay. Now, along those same lines, it says that, let me see if I can make sense of this. It says, in the 8K, it states they have not paid the $400,000 down for being able to use the $500 million bond as of June.

Has the payment been made yet of the $500,000?

[Mr. Harris] (2:48:12 – 2:48:57)

I don’t have a clue what that guy said. Steven Canady, you’re an idiot. I want you to know that.

See, there’s another insider shit. Be sure you log that in your little book, Simon, okay? That contract is on the State of Georgia Superior Court, all right?

The contract did not say that we pay $400,000. What the contract said is once the instrument is received into our institution, we will pull down an immediate line off the credit for $400,000. Guess what?

If you don’t have the authority to transfer it and put it in the institution, you don’t get the $400,000. Contractual. Goes back to what I said earlier, people.

Read the contract. If it wasn’t met, you can bet your butt the performance wasn’t on our side. Go ahead.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:48:57 – 2:49:08)

Okay, just real quick. Also, someone gave us an 800 number for the transfer agent in the event that someone didn’t want to dial the toll to speak to the transfer agent.

[Mr. Harris] (2:49:08 – 2:49:11)

That toll- Oh, man, don’t do that. That costs him money.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:49:11 – 2:49:11)

Okay. All right, so, you know, and you’re right, you know, people, if they want to, if it’s that important to them, they can pay the-

[Mr. Harris] (2:49:13 – 2:49:29)

Look, if the first number the ADP sent us is right near 15,000 shareholders and he gets 15,800 phone calls, he’s going to pass that bill along to me. I don’t want it.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:49:29 – 2:49:42)

Okay. That makes sense. That makes sense.

All right, so let me see what else we’ve got here. Why weren’t the documents requested from the government agency weeks ago? Not sure what documents they’re speaking of.

[Mr. Harris] (2:49:42 – 2:49:43)

Which ones?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:49:43 – 2:49:45)

Yeah, that’s what I’m-

[Mr. Harris] (2:49:45 – 2:49:47)

The ADP list? Is that what you’re discussing? Can you clarify?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:49:48 – 2:49:49)

Yeah, that’s what I’m asking. So-

[Mr. Harris] (2:49:50 – 2:50:04)

Why wasn’t the ADP list requested earlier? That’s another one. I think it’s the third time I’ve answered that one.

29th, just go back, listen to this tonight, and listen to what I said about the 29th, and then you’ll have your answer.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:50:05 – 2:50:06)

Yep. Let’s go back.

[Mr. Harris] (2:50:06 – 2:50:08)

Hey, I want to throw a plug out there.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:50:08 – 2:50:09)

All right.

[Mr. Harris] (2:50:09 – 2:50:34)

Saber, you’re wonderful. Jerry, you’re great. Mitch, settle down.

Settle down right now. Mitch hates for me to talk on NM1 or anything. I’m too straightforward, and I’m afraid that I’m going to offend someone.

And with me, you take me out on them. That’s all I can tell you. And there’s one thing I can promise you.

I’ll be there. So go ahead.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:50:34 – 2:50:56)

Now, as you say, there’s one listener that says- I’m not sure why this is, but it says that they called the transfer agent, and their name was not on the book. And their broker will not list the certificates in their name as of the 29th. Will it make a difference because the names were not on the book as of the 29th?

[Mr. Harris] (2:50:57 – 2:53:50)

Today, it may not seem like that big of a deal. Add a couple of bucks a share, $3 a share. At 15 to 30, that person is going to be really giving their broker some heck.

They’re really going to be upset. We will assist you. I’ve said it again.

We will help you. If you are not in the book, and your shares are not real shares, and you got caught up in this little illegal ring, we will help you. Look, we designed this.

Michael can tell you everything. We sat down and put this together in a phenomenal amount of time. We all put our minds on it, and we worked this out.

We knew the process. We were prepared for every step. The reactions to certain things in the market have changed our time frame.

I’ve stated this in a PR. I took full responsibility for it. The dates that I put down and the time frames that I put was aggressive.

Everybody was against it. I wouldn’t accept nothing less. I wanted it to be exactly to the maximum time frame that every institution can perform, the quickest they can get it back.

And that was when I picked the 13 to 15-day time frame that I put in there for the corporation. That’s why we’re where we are on that. If you find yourself out after the 29th, or your broker, the transfer agent tells you you do not have shares, and your broker tells you you’re not going to put them in your name, I advise you run to Merrill Lynch.

Go to Merrill Lynch. Transfer them electronically. Only reason I’m going to say Merrill Lynch, I’m not plugging for Merrill Lynch.

I know they’re good. It’s about the only one I personally experienced that I would advise you to go to. That’s where my mother is.

That’s where I’ve told everyone to go to. That has anything to do with anything in the market, go there. It’s the only ones I’ve found that will do everything and tell you everything straightforward.

They don’t try to sugarcoat it. And they don’t have rules and regulations to hurt you. I cannot see Merrill Lynch coming back and saying, okay, you know, we’ll sell your stock for you, but you can’t buy no more of it.

If they did that, I would literally be shocked. But I don’t think, I think they operate with, it’s like Ben said, you have a big board mentality, and then you have penny stock mentality. 90% of the people in this stock right now have only tasted penny stock mentality.

A lot of people are day trading this stock and flipping it. That’s what you’re used to. When we put press releases in 8K, people are like, why did they do that?

Guess what? Big board mentality. Everyone does it on NASDAQ.

And they just, well, not everyone, but a majority of them do. They attach the press releases to their 8K. So it’s in an SEC filing because a lot of press releases over this simulation of time are lost.

You can’t pull them up anymore. You try to two years from now to go back and find one of the press releases today. It will be hard if it still exists on a search engine website.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:53:51 – 2:54:03)

Right. Right. Now, speaking of, you know, two years from now, Nick, who says that he’s a long on your stock and he plans to hold for life, he wants to know where you see the company in one year.

[Mr. Harris] (2:54:03 – 2:54:05)

In one year? Is that what he asked?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:54:05 – 2:54:06)

Yes. Yep.

[Mr. Harris] (2:54:06 – 2:56:33)

Our, our, our destination and what we, the goal that we set is 15 billion in assets. And then to be honest with you, Nick, I’m, I’m looking for not the golden parachute. I haven’t designed the golden parachute.

I’ve actually have given a lot of my shares to people that have helped me in my life along the way. A year from now, when we designed it and put it in, if you go and look, we are chartered, we’re a chartered corporation. They’re filed.

Our charters are in with our SEC documents. All rules and regulations for committee members and committee and situations to be in place to handle things in the future are twice as strict as the SEC rules and regulations. Why?

For your protection, when there’s not a redneck hillbilly that tell you the way it is sitting at the top for down the road. A year from now, I can’t predict where it’s going to go, but all the tools are in place. Ben and I designed it.

We put these charters in place for your protection down the road. If something happens to me, God forbid you, I, you will have a comfort level in knowing that if someone does something, they’re not only violating the SEC rules or anything like that, the company has full authority to remove them and prosecute them without having to go through the court system. Anyone that signs on the dotted line in this corporation has to walk a very fine line inside that.

A lot of people will not sign the charters. You sign an employment agreement, that’s part of it. We make you agree to the charters, and they don’t like it.

We’ve had people walk out that have come to us to go to work. They say, look, that’s crazy. You can terminate me or suspend my pay based upon the findings of a committee.

Yes, sir. Sorry. There may be one or two that is damaged, but it’s better than that. All we got to do is be honest. Don’t be trying to look for a way around the system.

Work with it. If you’re not, you know, when someone answers me a question like that, how I look at it is, well, why would you even ask that? It wouldn’t even cross my mind to ask that.

I’d look at it and go, killer, man. This is great. Everybody is under a massive regulation.

They can’t do crap. If you do any kind of fraud, you want to be prosecuted. I mean, there’s all kinds of protections and locks in the way to protect the shareholders in case I’m not around or Ben’s not around or our particular group, because these corporations will change.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:56:33 – 2:57:01)

Okay. Now, one of the, I guess, the frustrating point that this long shareholder has, and I think it’s probably can be sympathized by many, the question is, we’ve heard several times tonight that the 10K is not going to be pretty much the information we’ve already had up to this point, plus a few additions. Why then is it taking so long? We were not promised.

[Mr. Harris] (2:57:01 – 2:57:02)

For the 10K?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:57:02 – 2:57:03)

Yeah, the 10K.

[Mr. Harris] (2:57:03 – 2:57:05)

I’ve already answered that also. Remember the 29th?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:57:05 – 2:57:06)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (2:57:06 – 2:57:07)

It’s the fourth time.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:57:07 – 2:57:09)

Right, but is it September 29th?

[Mr. Harris] (2:57:09 – 2:58:49)

Remember the 29th, ladies and gentlemen. The reason is when we put it on the show list, we designated it and made the 29th drop dead date. That drop dead date is to help you, all right?

Yes, we could have put it in, but you know what? When I send Don a 72, a 63, and a 62, and a 73 page document to Edgar Eisen to get this out today, the guy says, for God’s sakes, man, give me some time to get these things, you know? I need to do my job as transfer agent.

I need to make sure everything’s kosher. I need to go through here. They have to readjust them.

They have to Edgarize them. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. All right?

So we sat back and we chilled. The 29th was the date that the drop dead was. It was just a better decision to file on Monday.

The reason we didn’t file on Monday, we had two people come in with two massive bills last week prior to the Friday. We made the decision. It was voted on, and everybody said, let’s give these an opportunity.

Why? They will be in the 10K. They will be in your knowledge.

We can mention in the 10K that we are in negotiations to fund this deal. The corporation is going to put up this many billion dollars to fund this deal. Such and such is going to match it.

These are the types. That’s the reason we’re waiting on the 10K. 10K will be out.

It will make its deadline. It will not be late. That’s the tricky word.

Is it late already? All right? Are we out of compliance?

Let me reword it a little bit better. We will not be out of compliance with the SEC. That’s what I will tell you.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:58:50 – 2:59:01)

So I guess if I add on to that question that’s being asked, how long have you known that you were going to wait for September 29th? And if you’ve known from the beginning…

[Mr. Harris] (2:59:01 – 2:59:01)

Did not know.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:59:02 – 2:59:02)

Okay.

[Mr. Harris] (2:59:02 – 2:59:29)

We had planned to file it on the 13th when we completed the Front Haul stuff. Front Haul was damn near bankrupt. You know, Mike’s a great person.

You’re super, Mike. I’ll tell you what, I like that guy. I wish he was my neighbor.

I’m thinking about moving to Texas just to have that guy as my neighbor. I really enjoy Mike. But you know what?

Can Mike manage it? Yeah. He probably can.

He can handle it with everything in place. But did Mike put it here? No, Mike didn’t.

But go ahead.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (2:59:29 – 2:59:33)

So when you say the 13th, you were talking about what month on the 13th?

[Mr. Harris] (2:59:33 – 3:00:35)

13 days in the 15-day time frame. And I would initially come out and tell everybody. That’s when the bashing started.

When all that came in and people didn’t really start then. It started when everybody started buying the stock. When all of the…

See, when we jumped into this, there’s people that had been involved with us for two and a half years. And we’re not talking about some people that will… That invest into $1,000 or $5,000.

We’re talking about high-end wealth individuals that invest and have the ability to invest a half a million. A million. Two million.

Without thinking twice about it. Those people have been there. When I said the float’s gone, it’s because I know when people started calling and saying, I bought 1.2 million shares. We started arranging through our trust to buy it and started executing it. And then all of a sudden, we started getting calls. Man, I bought 18.8 million shares. Where did they come from the first day? The float at the time wasn’t supposed to be 30. We traded half the float first day.

What’s the explanation?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:00:36 – 3:00:36)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (3:00:36 – 3:01:20)

Do this little task.

Somebody needs to do this. I promise you, if somebody puts this together, you go back from the first day we put out our 8K. I will post this on our website.

And you look at the volume for every single day and the price of money that was spent on that day. And let’s add that up from the first day of the PR to today. And let’s look at the money that has been spent in the market.

Whether it’s real or not, it doesn’t matter. Because it’s what you see on screen. It’s what they’re telling you is real.

It’s like I said, if they’re going to sell it, the crap to it, by every bit of it, they’ll sell. Because if they’re stupid enough to do it, why don’t you be stupid enough to make money off of it?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:01:22 – 3:01:34)

Now, earlier, I was going to say earlier, you mentioned something about possibly, not possibly, but toying with the idea of putting out a proxy and maybe buying out the shareholders at whatever price point.

[Mr. Harris] (3:01:35 – 3:03:13)

We’ve already passed it and set the funds aside. We’ve already passed $900 million on the side to cover every born share. See, the numbers we have to go by, hold on a second.

The numbers we have to go by is what we receive from the government agency. When you’re told from, when you receive a report from DTC, it depends on how many shares you have in the depository trust corporation, which check it out. That’s who you take your certificate to.

That’s who your broker deposits it with for you to hold it electronically. Now, if those people don’t know what’s real, how am I going to know what’s real? If they tell me 30 million shares is there, then that’s what we go by.

That’s what you must go by. If you flip 400 and some odd million shares in the market in a three month timeframe, did you flip your float that much? You can bet you’re butt you didn’t.

How many of you held your shares from then? How many of you have been in this from Front Haul? Add it up.

That’s the type of stuff we’re going to do. We’re going to prevent and eliminate shorting. We’re going to know who our shareholders are.

We have designed a system where we can have our own transfer agent in-house. We’re going to have our own depository trust agent employed from us, and we’re going to hold your search for you, and we can guarantee that it’s real. You can sell it as normal.

It’ll be DTC-able. It’ll be electronic. You can trade it electronically, but you know what?

If one share trades that we don’t know of shortly, I wouldn’t want to be the firm that traded it. Go ahead.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:03:13 – 3:03:21)

Now, so you’ve already passed it, so that’s an option. That’s not a matter of fact that this will be the end result.

[Mr. Harris] (3:03:21 – 3:03:21)

The 900?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:03:22 – 3:03:24)

No, no. I’m speaking of the buyout.

[Mr. Harris] (3:03:24 – 3:03:26)

No, no, no. It’s not an end result.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:03:26 – 3:03:27)

Okay, so it’s an option.

[Mr. Harris] (3:03:27 – 3:05:47)

It is a choice at any given time. If we are uncomfortable with what is going on to protect our shareholders, we can buy everybody out at a price. Okay?

That’s what it is. That’s to protect you. Are we going to run into the market and buy air up?

No. Guess what? See, that’s what these little stupid people, these little market makers doing this stuff are thinking.

Ooh, a buyback. I’ll short the crap out of that. Guess what?

Your name ain’t on the list. You ain’t going to get bought back. You’re going to exchange your certificates in a buyback.

You must get a hard copy certificate from the transfer agent and you must send it to the firm to the attorney that is the escrow agent handling that transaction before you get a check for that amount of money. You’re not going to be able to do it electronically. It’s not going to be okay.

Your company’s going to buy my share at $15 on the screen. Our fellows, guess what? You get your cert, you call it in, we’ll pay you then.

No, it’s not set in stone. It’s an option. That’s the beauty of this.

That’s why some people look at it and say, oh man, they covered every avenue. We did it from the beginning. It was covered the day the 8K was filed.

That’s why the attack. That’s why these guys come out and started attacking. That’s why they started posting this stuff.

That’s why they started saying everything that they’re saying. When they realized they were in a box and there was no way out, it was the only option they’re left with. It’s just like when all of a sudden some of this stuff we talked about tonight, it’s phenomenal.

This stuff ought to be on CNN. I know it’s an over-the-counter bulletin board. It’s a little crappy stock.

Come on. False press releases and when everybody tunes in, it’s bashing. You’ve got fraud out there.

Come on. The stock takes off from above $16 and miraculously Our Street and Stock Lemon comes out. Bashing the stock.

Heck, it was three days. They didn’t have time to do any due diligence, but they were there. It’s orchestrated.

There was a guy, James. I think it was James that come on and he’s posted earlier and he said, y’all don’t buy him, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He said to you, trust no one.

At the end of the conversation, you boxed him in and said to include Rufus. Right? Remember that?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:05:47 – 3:05:49)

That’s actually Anthony, but yes.

[Mr. Harris] (3:05:49 – 3:06:32)

Well, I agree with you. When it comes to the market, James and shareholders, trust no one. The only thing I’ve told every investor in every company I’ve ever dealt with, trust nothing but the 8K.

If a press release has a disclaimer, most most 10K filings have a disclaimer. Have you noticed that most 10Qs have disclaimers? You know what?

Only if our attorney acted in his attorney opinion later. Will our 10K have a disclaimer? Because I’m not going to do anything that’s going to put me in jail.

So I don’t have a reason to put on there. If this isn’t true six months from now, we’re not going to be held liable. If it ain’t true six months from now, well, guess what?

I didn’t do my job.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:06:32 – 3:06:56)

Right. That’s a different approach. I’ll say that.

Now, one thing that a listener is asking is this, going back to the name and certificates, they said that they’ve never called their broker to get the certificates out of street name into their own name. However, their broker has sent them proxy statements. Does this count as?

[Mr. Harris] (3:06:56 – 3:06:58)

I’m not going to say they’re not going to send you proxy statements.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:06:59 – 3:06:59)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (3:07:00 – 3:07:49)

I’m not going to say you’re not going to receive them through your brokers. I’m just going to tell you, if this thing goes sideways, the only way the company can protect you is if I have your name and address. Now, if you come back, we will assist you and we will ensure that you at least get the $15 if we got to pay it.

And, you know, unless it’s some crazy, massive number, like a couple of hundred million dollars in a hundred million shares. Now, come on. I’m going to come out and say, look, people, I know I said that crap, but I can’t beg the company just to give you your $15.

We’re going to have to reach a disagreement. They may have to lower that number if your brokers are still doing it. How do you trade nine million shares in a day on a stock that’s got 37 million shares out?

And hey, you were speaking earlier. At first, you wouldn’t buy the stock. Now you’re a shareholder, correct?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:07:50 – 3:08:00)

I am. [Rufus: Are you holding …] The shares that I have? I classify as free shares or profit shares because I have flipped the stock and pulled out my profit.

[Mr. Harris] (3:08:00 – 3:08:08)

Yeah, yeah, yeah. You did a little bit like I told everybody. Go do it.

Set your price. Make you some money. Be happy about it.

Just remember who helped you make it.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:08:08 – 3:08:08)

Exactly.

[Mr. Harris] (3:08:09 – 3:08:28)

I know. And I’m cool with that. That’s what it’s about.

There’s people in Wattle right now, you know, that’s been here for two and a half years. And I know they did the same thing. It’s the market principle.

Cover your original investment and the rest are extra. So that’s good. That’s a good way to invest.

That way you never lose.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:08:28 – 3:08:30)

Exactly. So yes, I am a shareholder.

[Mr. Harris] (3:08:30 – 3:08:35)

You always protect it and you have at least the original money you put into it back.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:08:35 – 3:08:35)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (3:08:35 – 3:10:46)

And that’s good. That’s a good way of investing. Right now, these guys are in a pickle.

The Berlin Exchange is the checkmate. When they were desperate enough to commit that level of fraud, they had to go somewhere with their shares. So if that was run, we see no one’s never went over to Berlin and tried to track down how those shares traded there and who did it and all of this type stuff.

And it’s all over-the-counter bulletin board. Well, guess what, fellas? Remember when I told you earlier about the tiger that you grab by the tail?

Well, this tiger has friends in the U.N. and overseas. Y’all really need to look at some of the names we put in the press releases and pay attention to where the company’s headed. That’s what they do is they draw your attention off of the good, the real.

They pull you from it. We will get the people that did the Berlin exchange crap. Whoever it is, whatever you can bet your bottom dollar, the day will come.

Our Street goes out there and says, you know, the FTC works slow. Who knows? Although it’s fraud and I agree, it’s going to increase because it’s an outstanding pump.

Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But they’ll get them one day. Well, dude, whoever’s responsible for that Berlin Exchange stuff, we’re going to get you one day from the words of Our Street.

We coming and we’ll find out who orchestrated all of this stuff. And then one, I don’t even know where to start with that. They ain’t a judge in the land.

I don’t care if you did come back and say, oh, we’re not responsible for this. I don’t care what kind of disclaimers you’ve got. You don’t think we documented the price decrease and the short selling that happened after it.

The beauty of this is, is we have the money and the ability. That’s the two things that comes down to win in this situation. Main one’s money.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:10:46 – 3:10:46)

All right.

[Mr. Harris] (3:10:47 – 3:12:16)

If you can, if you got the money to get these guys, they will go down. Will there be another crook to replace them? There’s one born every minute in today’s society.

There’s one born every minute. But I promise you, like Ben told you, what we’re doing with CSHD will be a milestone forward in correcting the market. There’s some things that we are doing that has not been done.

When you see it, you may not understand it. Don’t let them spin it. They want to take the ADP … ADP sent us 106 million.

So what? It’s 26. So what?

How is 26 compared? That’s 4 million shares shorter than what DTC reported. How is that good?

I didn’t produce the numbers. It’s not my problem. I know what the shareholders are.

We hold the book. We know who’s holding shares. That’s why I call these guys liars.

That’s why they kill me. When these guys go out here and say this crap and the company trades 20 million shares in a day or 18 million shares or 12 million shares in a single day. I just look at that myth.

I run it again and I look at it and I go, wait a second. Ameritrade dropped 4 million shares and StockTrade picked up 3 million shares. Now did everybody pull their shares from Ameritrade and put them in StockTrade?

Maybe. But you know, right now Ameritrade’s number is a lot closer to what we suspected it should be. It will slowly correct itself.

They don’t have a choice.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:12:17 – 3:12:41)

Right. So now earlier I was asking you a question about a charitable trust. And you said yes that you already had that in progress.

But the listener actually said that’s not what they intended to ask. Specifically what they were asking was would you, Rufus, be interested in partnering with select Hot Stock Market members to create a trust?

[Mr. Harris] (3:12:42 – 3:12:42)

Yes.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:12:42 – 3:12:43)

That would benefit other…

[Mr. Harris] (3:12:43 – 3:16:21)

I will even put up company press releases in relationship to the developments of that deal. Here’s the situation I ran into with PR Newswire. PR Newswire, when we were going after Stock Lemon and Kim at Resource Company, whatever, whoever, R Street, let’s just say R Street.

Okay. When we started pressing on that, PR Newswire took a legal position with us and said, look, we highly recommend that you go ahead and file your lawsuit. Man, we’re not ready yet.

These guys are going to do it two and three and four and five more times and we’re going to let them crap a pile as big as they want to. If they’re going to stand in the same place and keep building that pile, we’re going to let them do it. As I deal with T in New York, when I talk to him, he hates it.

He wants to see everything right now, right this second. Trust me. What we’re doing, we’ve been there, we know what we’re doing, and it’s for the betterment of you.

It’s for the shareholders to profit. It will only help. If we don’t put the 10K out tomorrow, don’t worry.

It will profit you more. And what it will do is help protect you. We’re not here to run out there and tell the market so they can trade.

Who’s making money? Only the shareholders. The company’s not, this is not a capital release.

This isn’t an IPO. The money’s not coming back to the company. We’re not getting, we’re not selling stocks to put money in our pocket.

We don’t need the money. The little bit of dollars that’s trading here, we make on transactions in a day, you know, and on this company. We’re not concerned with the daily transactions of the stock.

A lot of people, I tell them, don’t look at the daily price. All you’re seeing is crazy markets, and it’s manipulated. It’s manipulated every time you turn around.

Now, I’ve said it what, four times now? NM1 put out a fake cash release and had bashers on their site. Where are we headed to?

What kind of explanation do you get? How do you get out and do business the next day? I’m going to tell you this.

We went to federal agencies, FBI, and all the, look, it got to the point where we were so out-prosecute these guys. Nothing was being done by the agencies. They were telling us our number one concern right now is terrorism in this country.

They’re protecting the people. Anything under $3, $4, $5 million. U.S. Attorney’s told us anything under $3 to $5 million, you can build your case and bring it to us when it gets to that amount. When you can prove it, then we’ll take the case and prosecute them. FBI says, you know, a white-collar division can look at it, but right now the majority of our sources are on terrorism. This is the type of response we get.

So you have to do it yourself. We had to find a way to deal with the crooked market internal. When you’re left high and dry in no situation … BBAN …

I was in a federal court. We proved to a federal judge that these crooks sold 90 million shares under a injunction from the court that no one can issue them. Are they walking the street?

Yes. Did I suspect the corruption to make it into the federal courts? Heck no.

I actually argued it. Hey, man, it’s a federal judge. Come on.

Did he prosecute them? No. They’re in another company.

And I found out a couple of days ago from a friend of mine, they got the same transfer agent as I do. You know, this world’s crazy.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:16:21 – 3:17:04)

It is. It is. One of the questions that continues to surface back is some of the listeners feel that we’re not, you and I either together or individually are not being specific enough for people to get a solid answer on the situation.

If they buy shares today, tomorrow, Wednesday, what happens with respect to the 29th? Now, let me see if I can try this again. So if you buy shares today, Friday, Thursday, last week, whatever time, and if you want these certificates to be in your name, independent of today being-

[Mr. Harris] (3:17:05 – 3:17:46)

If the brokerage firm will not put them in your name. And they tell you that it is their procedures to either keep it in street name or they don’t have the abilities. Whatever reason they give you, I’m going to do just like I told everyone in the beginning. I strongly recommend you either get your hard copy, sir, or you move it to a different broker.

OK, I’ve answered that same thing again. Are the shares real you’re buying? I can’t tell you that.

I don’t know. When we traded 18.8 million shares the first day after the initial merger agreement, you know, and then we lost the momentum at $1.60 from all the fraud starting. At what point did the shares become what?

The float was bought up when I told you. Go back to it.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:17:46 – 3:17:46)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (3:17:46 – 3:19:02)

I know the shareholders that held them. I know people in Europe that hold a lot of people in Europe that we deal with it. And major traders, major bankers that own stock, Deutsche Bank has restricted our stock to their own … to the people in Europe and told them we cannot guarantee delivery of certs.

We bought our securities through such and such market maker. We cannot guarantee your delivery of your cert. They have called for their cert.

We received phone calls from a group of 15 to 20 investors in Spain all over. And they’re associated with people we do business with. What do I tell them when they call and say, hey, Deutsche Bank just just restricted my cert because it can’t guarantee.

I mean, just restricted my stock. I can’t tell them that they wouldn’t allow them to sell it or do anything with it. It couldn’t move it until they received their certs because they felt they would not be able to guarantee the delivery of it.

If I’m not mistaken, somewhere on HMS, somebody posted something from one of the institutions, the major online institutions, that said they couldn’t guarantee their certs. Now, when you get something like that, that’s the market telling you, look, dude, we screwed up, but we’re going to continue things how they are.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:19:03 – 3:19:03)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (3:19:04 – 3:19:37)

So don’t use them as a broker. I don’t care who it is. I don’t care if they sue me.

It’s for your protection. If they give you crap like that, it’s better to find somebody who will hold your hand and help you out. Get out of those penny stock people or you’re only going to get hurt in the future.

I see people like if the stock trades in Ameritrade not existing too much longer because when certain regulations are put into place that prohibits what these guys have been making their money off of, the profits are going to crash. So go ahead.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:19:37 – 3:20:34)

So again, as simply as Rufus can say it or as I can say it, regardless of the time frame that you buy your shares of CSHD that you have decided to buy, not because of this conversation, not because of what I’ve said or Rufus has said, what you need to do if you want your shares long term is contact your broker and request those certificates to be placed in your name, either electronically or in physical hard cert. Again, some people are comfortable with having them, keeping them in street name.

That’s fine. Understand you’re writing a higher risk of your name not being in the book as Rufus has been talking about. Some people are only doing this short term.

That’s fine. You have to decide for yourself. So again, if you buy the shares today, tomorrow, next week, and you want them long term, call your broker and ask for the certs in your name.

That’s really as simple as I guess we can say at this point.

[Mr. Harris] (3:20:35 – 3:20:56)

It eliminates it. It eliminates the situation to where if we have your name in the book, you’re going to get whatever benefits come to you. If the situation comes down, look, I’m going to give you an example.

What type of frenzy would it cause if tomorrow morning the list comes out and everybody’s name is put on our website as a shareholder?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:20:56 – 3:20:57)

Say that again. I’m sorry.

[Mr. Harris] (3:20:57 – 3:21:02)

If everyone’s name that’s on the company’s books are put on the list as a shareholder.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:21:02 – 3:21:02)

Yes.

[Mr. Harris] (3:21:02 – 3:21:31)

What are you going to do, Simon? I put out on the company website, every name of everybody that’s on the books lists how many are in street names and are held. We have all the information.

Well, heck, the only thing you don’t have that’s on our website now where the DTC versus ADP is the actual number of shareholders and how many shares they hold. What would you do if you found out tomorrow your name’s not on that list? What would it mean to you?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:21:31 – 3:21:31)

I mean.

[Mr. Harris] (3:21:31 – 3:21:32)

Oh, crap.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:21:32 – 3:21:45)

Well, again, I think that question is a good question to ask, but it applies to different people. I mean, for me personally, because you did ask what would it mean to me, it wouldn’t be that big of a deal. And the reason I say.

[Mr. Harris] (3:21:46 – 3:21:47)

Well, because of your situation.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:21:47 – 3:22:13)

Right, exactly. And as I’ve told listeners, I said, you know what, I’ve already pulled out my profit four times and I’ve said this, if this reset in terms of the stock price, if it happens, great. If it doesn’t, no big deal to me.

You know, and so that’s why I say, you know, if that were to happen, you publish everyone’s name and my name not to be there. OK, not a big deal to me, but someone else.

[Mr. Harris] (3:22:13 – 3:22:21)

But it is to some people. If you went and mortgaged your home or you took your complete savings and put into it, it’s devastating to you.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:22:21 – 3:22:22)

Absolutely. Absolutely.

[Mr. Harris] (3:22:22 – 3:22:25)

You’re going to sit there and look at it and go, oh, my God.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:22:25 – 3:22:26)

Exactly. And people will be freaking out.

[Mr. Harris] (3:22:26 – 3:22:28)

How long is it going to be before I see a dime?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:22:29 – 3:22:29)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (3:22:29 – 3:23:01)

What am I going to do? I don’t want no one to be in that situation. I don’t want to have to take a phone call from someone because that’s my weakness.

I can’t deal with that. I hate it. Texas Princess.

Everybody remembers this. I call a lot of crap from that. I told Texas Princess.

Guess what? Texas Princess sold. My advice to Texas Princess was hold it.

You’ll get it. The day will come. You will get it.

She listened to the crap and she sold. Well, sweetheart, you made your choice.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:23:02 – 3:23:02)

Oh, absolutely.

[Mr. Harris] (3:23:02 – 3:25:18)

I don’t want any of the shareholders to lose. You know how many success stories I hear every day on my message system of people that have made five times their investment? A ton of the Front Haul people were in this thing in pennies.

They were robbed by these guys on the short selling in the pennies. The majority of them got out. That’s how you had 18 million shares running now.

The TD Ameritrade problem did not start until they contacted me and they asked for us to release the restriction on a large chunk of shares. And I would not respond to them because if they would have used their general counsel and he would have read their merger agreement, he would have found out that guess what? All shares, according to the merger agreement until reset is under administrative hold.

Why did I release the administrative hold? There was no real shares in the market and people were wanting to make the money. If you got in at 12 cents, hey, you see that two dollars and you’re just so nervous to think it may not be free.

Go get your money. I’m glad. I’m glad you get to make some money.

That’s what it’s all about. I’m glad you made it at a short sellers profit. At a short sellers loss.

I think that’s the greatest thing in the world. Get them in your pocket. It would not bother me tomorrow if every single shareholder went out and dumped this crap back to the people that they bought it to.

But you know what they’re going to do? They’re going to run it down. So their losses are a lot less.

They’re going to run the price down. Look at the fluctuation in the market now. You have audited financials of 803 million and it’s up and down and down and down.

It’s a battle in the market. Who’s the battle between? There’s few.

There’s very small key things that certain people pick up on. And that’s the main reason I put, you know, Hot Stock Markets. HSM.

They pick up on certain things. And I’ve seen certain things on there. They’re diligent.

Like, hey, Murph signed up. They’re a 62-year company and never traded in over-the-counter bulletin board before. What are they doing here?

You know what? They shouldn’t put all these people out here selling these air shares.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:25:19 – 3:25:19)

Now, wait a second.

[Mr. Harris] (3:25:20 – 3:25:29)

We got a company that deals primarily in big board dipping down here in a fraud. Why would they be doing that? They just want to buy some fraudulent shares.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:25:30 – 3:25:31)

It’s a thing to do, didn’t you know?

[Mr. Harris] (3:25:32 – 3:25:39)

You know, why did they do it? Just for the chance it might reset. See, they called it, but no one stuck on it.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:25:39 – 3:25:39)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (3:25:39 – 3:26:38)

They just let it pass them by. That’s why I always call it writing the book.

When I’m talking to some friends of mine, I’m writing the book. Everything like that, you just log in a book. Most people’s memory, I hate to say this, people’s memories are extremely bad.

Us, you know, as American citizens, we are the world’s worst. Four, nine, twin towers damaged. Bam.

We won’t burn. Let’s go to war. Let’s go get everybody.

Let’s go get every terrorist in the world. All of a sudden, eight years later, President Bush, it was their own idea. Well, guess what?

The whole damn country wanted it. We all wanted it, but we forgot about it. As the thing went on, there’s a country music song about it.

You know, which one is it? Do you remember? You know what it’s called?

Yeah. Well, guess what? You need to log these things down.

There should be a site where everything’s put down.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:26:39 – 3:26:39)

Sure.

[Mr. Harris] (3:26:39 – 3:27:25)

And it’s called the SEC website. Go to it. Read the filings.

That’s the only thing you need to listen to. If it’s fraud, guess what, people? I’m going to jail.

Okay, that’s it. If that’s the way it is, that’s how I’m telling you to make your decisions. My neck’s on the damn line.

I’ve got it out here to help you. I’m trying to make everybody, get it where everybody can make money off of these people and these rights. And they’re doing it.

They’re taking it out pretty hard. I mean, there’s been a lot of pressure on this stock and we’ve maintained it. That is what it is to show it to everybody.

How many stocks do you see that have had this large of a bashing campaign and still maintain a volume and at least a buck?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:27:26 – 3:27:47)

Right. Now, I would have to say that. I would definitely have to say that from the stocks that Stock Lemon has actually featured or touched on, this is probably one of the exceptions that I’ve seen.

Where the stock just, you know, it does take a little bit of a hit, but it regains and continues to move up. So I would definitely have to say that.

[Mr. Harris] (3:27:49 – 3:27:54)

No one can evaluate it. I mean, that’s the problem. That’s the volatility of the market.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:27:54 – 3:27:55)

Right, right.

[Mr. Harris] (3:27:55 – 3:28:07)

That’s the problem with the market. There’s no excuse. You made a statement earlier that I heard when you said good news can have a negative effect on a stock and bad news can have a positive effect.

It’s the market.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:28:07 – 3:28:07)

True.

[Mr. Harris] (3:28:07 – 3:28:23)

You give it up years ago trying to evaluate it. It’s just, you just have to accept it. Well, see, that was a statement that I told myself.

I’m going to address that. That is the problem, Simon.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:28:23 – 3:28:25)

You think that that’s part of the problem?

[Mr. Harris] (3:28:25 – 3:28:42)

That’s part of the problem. How can good news drive down a stock? Everybody thinks, okay, we’re going to have a lot of buying power.

So let’s everybody run out in the morning and place sale orders and let’s place them downward so the stock goes down.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:28:43 – 3:28:44)

Well, I mean.

[Mr. Harris] (3:28:44 – 3:28:45)

Why hell no?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:28:45 – 3:28:46)

Well, let me, let me.

[Mr. Harris] (3:28:46 – 3:28:53)

I mean, it’s not logic. If it isn’t logical, it’s like, you know, it makes no sense.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:28:53 – 3:31:22)

Right. Well, let me, let me actually, let me actually explain a little more because I didn’t go into a lot of detail, but you do, you do bring up a good point. And, and here is, here’s the logic that I didn’t share with, with the listeners when I, when I went into that, that detail.

And that is that there’s, there’s, there’s this trading style called buy on rumor, sell on news. So that in my mind is, you know, everybody, everybody wants to be first. Everyone wants to be the first one to get their cash.

Everyone wants to be the first one to sell on the bid. Everyone wants to be the first one to buy the cheapest shares. It’s a very selfish, self-centered market, if you will.

And, you know, with that said, everyone is always trying to beat everyone else to the punch. And the way that they’ve actually done that is, you know, whether right or wrong, they will, they will start out, they’ll call, someone will call the company because not everybody’s going to pick up the phone. Everyone’s afraid of calling long distance or whatever.

So someone will call the company and they’ll be chummy with the, the, the company, the transfer agent and say, okay, well, are you expecting to release any news, any, anything on the horizon? And sometimes certain CEOs, not all, but there are some CEOs that don’t really care. They forget where they are, who they’re talking to and they’ll let something slip and say, okay, so when do you expect to release that?

I will probably release it in the next two weeks. Okay, cool. So they’ll hit the message boards.

They’ll start populating out of the message boards in about two weeks. There’s going to be some big news. They’ll follow up with the company.

Is that still on track? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. So they’re buying all along while they’re still pumping on the message boards.

And as soon as that news is released, which is still good news, they want to make sure that they exit with profit and that’s why they sell on the, on the good news. And if everyone is, is actually caught onto this, this trend, this cycle, this methodology, and that’s why there, you have those news players, in my opinion, um, that will buy on the rumor, sell on the news to allow the general public to drive the price up high enough. So it guarantees them an exit price.

Um, and that, that’s when I see people start panicking. It’s like, wait a minute, this is supposed to be going up. Why isn’t it moving up as well as it’s supposed to?

And that’s when everyone starts panicking. That’s because they, they don’t know either A, how to trade or B, they haven’t done their own due diligence. So, I mean, there’s, there’s a lot of reasons, um, as to why it, it doesn’t, I don’t want to say it goes against common sense, but to some extent it does, you know, you would expect good news to propel the stock up.

[Mr. Harris] (3:31:23 – 3:31:37)

Okay, for that logic to work, Simon, then that would, you would have to have a perception that there’s a massive, massive number of quote unquote day traders that hit at one time.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:31:37 – 3:31:40)

Well, yeah, I mean, and that’s the only way that would work.

[Mr. Harris] (3:31:40 – 3:31:49)

You’d have to have a multitude of people doing that, taking the profit out of it and, you know, buy and sell rumors and, and news.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:31:49 – 3:31:49)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (3:31:50 – 3:31:59)

That’s part of the problem. How is the day trader using real shares? No, he’s using the manipulation of the market by air shares.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:31:59 – 3:31:59)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (3:32:00 – 3:32:05)

That’s what you’re doing. The only way to get real shares out of someone is fear.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:32:05 – 3:32:06)

True.

[Mr. Harris] (3:32:06 – 3:32:08)

Bad news or fear.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:32:08 – 3:32:10)

Right. And there’s a lot, there, there’s a lot.

[Mr. Harris] (3:32:10 – 3:35:07)

They’re not just going to go out there and sell that day for no reason or just, unless they just want to take some money out of it and get some change back. But that’s not the majority of them. They buy the shares for the future.

And that’s what the market’s got to get back to. It’s got to get back to. If you buy a share in a public company, either the CEO, that’s why I’m liable.

That’s why they’re holding so many executives liable for their activities today. Either you’re doing exactly what you’re saying you’re doing, or you’re going to jail. That’s the new mentality.

I had an attorney and I told him he wasn’t an SEC attorney. And I said, dude, you want to make some money and learn the SEC stuff. The first seminar that he went to for teaching was entitled, who goes to jail?

After the seminar was over with, which was, I’m not mistaken, a couple of days and hours and hours and hours, he came back and he sat down and he looked at me and said, I’m not interested. I’m really not interested in it. This is, you know, there’s so many things out there that is out of everyone’s control that is controlled by the market.

And it’s scary. It is scary how it’s manipulated. And I’m really not interested in going through the SEC side of it to have any responsibility in something out of my control.

And that’s why I am so strong and forceful and such an asshole, as a lot of people call me in situations, in … towards that … either it’s exactly what it is, no market manipulation, or it’s not. That’s what we’re after. And we will do it.

If we have to call, if it costs us a thousand dollars a day from here on out to run a DTC report and an ADP report every single day, who cares? If I’m protecting your investment, you don’t care. Right.

We’ve got several billion in credit lines. We’ve got, when all of this comes in and everybody actually sees what we are, I’m going to guide people in a few due diligence directions. How many people have ever, no one ever called it.

What are we listed as on the Over-the-Counter Bulletin Board? What is this company listed as? What industry are we listed under?

Have you ever looked it up? If anybody’s out there right now, pull up OTCBB.com, go in CSHD, go under profile, company information, and look in the middle square symbol on the right. What we are listed as under Over-the-Counter Bulletin Board.

Do the same thing we’ve done in Bradstreet Charitables. Look at what we’re listed as. Those are our stick numbers.

Look at what they are. That will tell you where the company is headed. For DMV, we’re quoted as a company allowed to take deposits other than a bank.

That ought to tell you everyone something. We’re chartered. We’re SEC-filed charters.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:35:08 – 3:35:09)

Right. I’m actually…

[Mr. Harris] (3:35:09 – 3:35:20)

We’re listed as a conglomerate. Under the OTC Bulletin Board. Does anybody just choose to be a conglomerate?

Is that an option that you just click a button and say, okay, we’re going to be a conglomerate today?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:35:21 – 3:35:25)

No, probably there’s some things that have to be met and satisfied.

[Mr. Harris] (3:35:26 – 3:35:30)

Same thing as going to the NASDAQ Bulletin Board. There’s requirements.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:35:30 – 3:35:31)

Sure.

[Mr. Harris] (3:35:31 – 3:37:47)

Everything you see, there’s requirements. But, you know, R Street, go out there and spin it. Say, ah, anybody could be a conglomerate.

Go ahead. Go out there and spin NASDAQ and say, ah, any company out here today can take deposits. Yes, they want to go to jail.

Ah, but everything’s fraud. And, you know, it frustrates me to the point my… All of my executive officers hate for me to get on the phone.

Because it’s the same old, same old crap. Same thing I saw on HHM when they were pushing Michael. All right.

Oh, he’s more acceptable. He’s the CEO that Wall Street wants. Are you telling me…

For what reason? That’s what fascinates me. What does it matter what color your skin is?

Ben, my partner, and has been my partner for a long time, he’s black. What color does it make? Well, why does it…

Why do I have to speak your language that you won’t? You’re wrong. It’s not correct.

No, we put this together. We’re going to see it through shareholders. Everyone’s going to get exactly everything we’ve laid out.

It’s there in black and white. Get ready for it. This week’s going to be something.

We’re going to do several things this week that no one else has done. And it will be, quote unquote, as I have said, a short elimination. The market doesn’t want you to believe it.

They’re going to go out there and fight. I can’t tell you tomorrow that anyone isn’t going to say, Rufus Harris lied again to get you all there to scare the hell out of you. I cannot promise you that.

We cannot protect you from the fraud. Under no circumstance can we do that. All we can do is guarantee you everything that we tell you and put into filing is what it says it is.

All we can do is guarantee you that our press releases are not going to be future statements. They’re not going to say, OK, we intend on getting 15 million. It’s going to say we signed a $5 billion contract for asset management.

It’s going to say this. You’re going to have the contract. If you would like to sit down and read the contract, please do so feel free.

I write every single one of them myself. But it’s getting late. Yeah, I think I need to head home.

I’m going to have really appreciated that you have been a great host.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:37:48 – 3:37:53)

Well, thank you. I appreciate that. Hopefully I’ve been fair and it’s been a good environment for you.

[Mr. Harris] (3:37:54 – 3:38:40)

So it has. It really has. I think this is the future, to be honest with you.

I think webcasts and radio webs and forums on computers for public companies is the future. That way, the public company can control the real information to the market. See, that’s my problem with the situation.

You want to hold me accountable for my actions. But when the marketplace fraud and manipulates it, they’re not held accountable. The day that anyone that manipulates a stock, that it’s the first in place that they cannot do it, is the day I’ll be a happy camper.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:38:41 – 3:39:14)

Sure, sure. So let me actually run through some of these last points before we say good night. Depending on where you are geographically, maybe good morning.

Let’s see. We’ve got just got an IM from and again, a lot of these are just more statements than anything else. JJ Seabrook actually happened to tune in and he said that he has never been a director of CMKX and nor had any of any other corporation.

And so it says, Rufus Paul…

[Mr. Harris] (3:39:14 – 3:39:21)

Okay, JJ, if you’re the same JJ on iHub, you either lied then or you’re lying now. You’re prerogative.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:39:21 – 3:39:29)

So he also says that he wants you to know that your statements are slanderous and there are absolutely no truth to them.

[Mr. Harris] (3:39:29 – 3:39:36)

So bring them on, JJ. Bring them on. By the way, JJ, all of our phone conversations are recorded.

So bring them on.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:39:37 – 3:39:52)

All right. Let’s see. We also have Hemi saying that you are welcome back anytime to hotstockforums.com and they’d like to have you back. Not sure if you’ve been there, left them.

[Mr. Harris] (3:39:52 – 3:40:24)

I go there from time to time and throw some stuff out. What I like to use the board for is surveys. It’s like a proxy for shareholders, but it’s a small group.

It’s like a comedian is how I treat it. See, you can’t refer to it as crash dummies. Sure.

I throw it out to them. I ask the question to get their opinion. It’s the same thing as when I walk in and I set down with all the executives and the board of directors and I give a, what do you think about this?

It’s the same thing. Right.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:40:24 – 3:40:25)

Just taking a quick reaction.

[Mr. Harris] (3:40:26 – 3:40:29)

But I would rather have it from the shareholders that are on the outside.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:40:30 – 3:40:30)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (3:40:30 – 3:40:32)

Look, how it moves to someone that’s on the outside.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:40:33 – 3:41:24)

Sure. Sure. Also, everyone out in the, uh, the spinoffs Pal Talk room saying, thank you.

Thank you very much, Mr. Rufus for, uh, for spending as much time as you did tonight on the show. They appreciate all the, all the, um, answers you’ve provided to their questions. So they appreciate that.

And there’s some like 200 people out there. They also said that everyone out at the Hot Stock Market on the CSHD thread, they all bought more shares today. So that’s good.

I guess, you know, we just need to make sure that they get their names on, on those certificates. Um, we also have, uh, one, one other thing. It’s, that’s a desperate question that, that is being asked.

And I guess this is going to be the last question is, do you think that, uh, the price per share is going to soar after the reset? And this is, this is someone that’s been asked.

[Mr. Harris] (3:41:24 – 3:41:25)

They can’t hold it back.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:41:25 – 3:41:26)

They can’t.

[Mr. Harris] (3:41:26 – 3:41:35)

I’m, I’m very surprised it’s where it is today. They can say what they want to say. Oh, the market doesn’t like Rufus Paul Harris.

I don’t really care what they like. We got what we got.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:41:35 – 3:41:36)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (3:41:36 – 3:42:32)

If they want to play games, like I said, we’ll escrow it, give you, put the money with an attorney and say, here, go get your money. $15 a share. I’ll deal with the, I’ll deal with them in the institutions.

Everybody just needs to step back, watch everything as it develops. And really, really please stay away from crap. Don’t listen to these people when they, if they post something, it can prove to you that it is a violation.

Don’t accept their words and let them play on your fear. You watch the numbers in your account. You sit there and you see it go from a buck 25 to $3.

And it’s just more than you can stand. You got to run out there and get your money. That’s fine.

I understand it. It’s a new boat. It’s a vacation.

I hope your family prospers. I hope you use the money for good, but don’t sell on fear from the fraud because they win when you do that.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:42:33 – 3:42:33)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (3:42:34 – 3:42:58)

And that’s all I don’t want you to do. I don’t want you to regret it. And then send me a letter saying Our Street made me fail.

No, they didn’t. That’s their job. That’s what they’re supposed to do.

That’s what, you know, they call it free speech. Right. I don’t, you know, whatever.

But they got you to fail. They did what they were supposed to do. Just pay attention to it and make your own decisions.

Don’t let these guys affect them.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:42:58 – 3:42:59)

Right.

[Mr. Harris] (3:42:59 – 3:43:13)

Pay attention to the SEC filings. If you can understand everything that’s going on, great. Make your investments from that.

I’m not, I’m going to tell you, I am who I am. You don’t have a choice but to take me for that.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:43:13 – 3:43:14)

Sure.

[Mr. Harris] (3:43:14 – 3:43:45)

I am what I am. That’s the way it is. I’m going to put it to you straight.

I’m not going to do anything. Whatsoever, I’m gonna to put my butt in. Now somebody walks up and saying it’s a fraudulent contract on my table.

And then as a result of it, I’m ended up dealing with it. You can bet metal bracelets are coming. We will see that their effect on you as a shareholder.

They will be held accountable for.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:43:45 – 3:44:21)

Right. Okay. Also, they said that not only Hot Stock Market, but also All Stocks was listening tonight.

And they say, thank you very much, Mr. Rufus, for your time tonight. Let’s see. We also say Michael.

Michael is one of the avid callers for CSHD. Very, very well-spoken guy. He says, and we are going to buy more tomorrow.

Oh, no, he’s asking me if I’m going to buy more tomorrow. We’ll have to wait and see. We’ll see.

I mean, some of these other stocks that I’ve played today and on Thursday have done pretty well. We’ll see. We’ll see.

[Mr. Harris] (3:44:21 – 3:44:39)

Oh, that’s what I was thinking to ask you. I mean, do you actually monitor that? Do you keep statistics on hot topics that are run on your radio show?

The effect or potential effect of it in the market the next day that we run on site statistics?

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:44:40 – 3:45:31)

Well, some of the stocks, some of the stocks that we actually talk about, they do perform okay. It’s a mixed bag. I guess about maybe 60% of the stocks that I say you want to keep an eye on for the following day, the following week, they actually do continue their move up.

Some people may say that my ratings or my statistics in terms of stock analysis is better than that. I really don’t know. I don’t monitor it myself.

Um, but yeah, you know, I would say definitely the hot topic, the most popular topic that we’ve had on the show has definitely been CSHD. There’s a lot of, a lot of folks following the stock and earlier in the show, maybe you heard me say this, but I thought it was kind of uncanny how none of the bashers have really, really stepped forward or called the show, you know?

[Mr. Harris] (3:45:31 – 3:45:59)

I’ve caught that. No, they’ve been there. They’re just eyeing you.

They never identify themselves. And what fascinates me is how do these sapsuckers get confidential inside information? What do they have?

Are they, I mean, are they a massive manipulative system that get into your computer system? That just fascinates me how they wind up with insider information. Martha Stewart goes to jail for it, but these crackpots do it every day.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:46:00 – 3:46:02)

Yeah, it’s kind of funny.

[Mr. Harris] (3:46:02 – 3:46:08)

Every single day, it never ceases to amaze me how corrupt the world really is.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:46:09 – 3:46:18)

It’s, it’s, it’s bad. It’s bad. Also, another listener wants to know where can they send their resume?

They want to work for you. Are you, are you taking … that day will come?

[Mr. Harris] (3:46:18 – 3:49:15)

That day will come. The day will come. We have several US projects under our Fortify America program that we’re tackling and we will have hundreds of thousands of jobs. Everything that we’re doing is on a very large note.

And I’m going to be honest with you, this past week has just been shocking. People that come in with assets to us, it’s really overwhelming. We did not expect it.

We have plenty of offshore institutions and banking. [inaudible] banking. When you’re dealing in the platforms and you’re setting up lines of credit in the billions, it’s a different circle, okay?

And they control billions. It’s just like a small broker here has a signed, you know, $100,000 to $200,000 or they’re signing billions from large institutional investors or over hedge funds or whatever to do these deals with. It’s fascinating to see the mentality of someone like that in the market.

It really is. See, this is how I first went to iHub and Hot Stock Market. It’s one of the … bankers that we deal with in Europe.

Sent us an email with something posted on one of the boards that they had found on an internet search. See, we are truly, truly in the information age. You can find anything out today.

A lot of people don’t know this. You can run, public companies can run complete background checks on potential employees. If you turn in a resume, we can run a complete background check to your finances, to if you file bankruptcy, down to include every single thing.

Anybody on the internet can go out there and pay $50 bucks and find anything out about someone if they have their name and social security number [Simon: Right]. You’re truly in the information age and that’s how they manipulate you. They manipulate the information that you get and more visible their information is.

That’s why there’s so many of them. That’s why they’re all over these boards and iHub is just, I’ve never seen anything like iHub. How, you know, fellas, y’all got troubles coming.

I’m just going to tell you now, the owner of iHub has troubles coming with the way that site allows bashers to manipulate it. If they’re not linked to this ring, I will literally be shocked and I may lose the lawsuit one day to the guy over, but you know, so what? I’m sure shareholders will mind to pay it to be able to change it so these guys can get up there and post fraudulent information and throw a little flame at the bottom of it and say, in my humble opinion or Our Street, what kind of society are we when a guy can go out and post the crap he posts and then cover himself with a disclaimer by saying, if you’re a US citizen, this information is not meant for you. If one person fails because of something that person posts, he ought to go to jail.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:49:15 – 3:49:16)

Literally.

[Mr. Harris] (3:49:16 – 3:49:22)

It should be legal. It should be illegal. That’s all I got to say.

It should literally be illegal.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:49:22 – 3:49:36)

Right, right. Let’s see. So let me let me actually wrap up some of these other things because people are still sending stuff.

They want to let you know that they love you. God bless you, your family, your company, and let’s see what else.

[Mr. Harris] (3:49:36 – 3:49:51)

No, I definitely thank y’all on that. Thank you and always. I want to say one more thing.

Always. I appreciate it and I want to ask. Always pray for me and my family any chance you get.

You’re in my prayers every day. Pray for me and my family.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:49:52 – 3:50:29)

Very good. Very good. All right.

And I think that wraps up everything. So it’s it’s been interesting. I would say that Mr. Mr. Rufus Paul Harris. Let’s see. So what I’m what I’m going to do is actually a lot of people are asking for a download of this show. So what I’ll probably wind up doing is actually taking the last part of the show whenever you actually first called from there.

Moving forward, it’ll be available as a download. If you’re interested, let me know and we can make a copy available to you or however.

[Mr. Harris] (3:50:29 – 3:50:32)

I’m definitely interested. I’ll even post it on a link on our site.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:50:32 – 3:50:35)

Okay. Very good. Very good.

And again, it’s.

[Mr. Harris] (3:50:36 – 3:50:37)

harris@cshd.us.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:50:39 – 3:50:50)

All right. I’m sure I know there’s a lot of people who know how to get a hold of you. So if I either forget it or don’t don’t write it down properly, I’m sure someone, James or someone else will be able to.

[Mr. Harris] (3:50:51 – 3:50:52)

[inaudible].

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:50:52 – 3:51:12)

Exactly. They’ll be able to put me in touch with you. So very good.

It is now to 12 a.m. So our normal show for those that are listening normally is 7 p.m. to 10 p.m. Eastern time. But we went a little over under special circumstances. We had Rufus Paul Harris from Conversion Solutions.

[Mr. Harris] (3:51:12 – 3:51:15)

I apologize to your wife. Tell her I’m sorry I kept you this late.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:51:15 – 3:51:25)

Oh, no, she’s already asleep. So not a problem. Not really.

And again, thank you very much, Rufus, for your time. And let Ben know for me also.

[SubPenny Radio Announcer] (3:51:25 – 3:51:26)

A hearty thank you.

[Mr. Harris] (3:51:27 – 3:51:28)

All right. I will do. Godspeed, everybody.

[Simon (SubPenny Radio Host)] (3:51:28 – 3:51:29)

Good night.

[Mr. Harris] (3:51:29 – 3:51:29)

Goodbye.

[SubPenny Radio Announcer] (3:51:39 – 3:51:54)

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